FW, Navy ships, Neutrals

[Io_Koval]

This thread has to be a joke, as it’s exactly the sort of low-sec whine I’ve been warning about recently.

@Verlyn

Why should a non-aligned neutral player reap all the same benefits when flying those navy ships inside plexes as aligned FW players would ?

FW pilots work to farm the LP to pop those ships into the market, so why should some randoms be allowed to roam around with them and cause risk-free disturbance to providers ?

Isn’t it now time, to restrict neutral uses of all Navy (old and new) ships inside FW plexes ?

As a former neutral who spent the past, what, 6 months? Disturbing the local FW warzone: No. Lowsec pirates already have one of the -iest and difficult lifes in Eve Online. Outside of FW, it is hard to find fights, and we already come into your sites as suspect so you have:

• Positional advantage: you should win based on that alone
• Disengagement advantage: you are able to see what ship is on 0.1AU D-scan and warp out safely if you don’t want to fight that kind of ship
• Pirate is suspect: You have 0 repercussions should you choose to engage and deal the first strike
• You are not suspect: If the pirate wants to aggress first, they have to take the sec status hit (and we know with the current patch the consequences are now even more elevated)

I was recently warning about incoming whining about wanting a safer time making ISK in lowsec, I just didn’t expect it so soon!

@Io_Koval

I already get low-sec hate mail from killing AFK ventures and empty-ship LP farmers in Faction Warfare. It’s only a matter of time before they cry to CCP and CCP starts making LowSec like HighSec Lite.

@Io_Koval

Literally have an Eve mail sitting in my inbox from killing a Rupture that was ratting in low sec belts. This is one of about 4 people I’ve ever seen ratting in belts in low sec the past 6 months. The body of the Eve mail is along the lines of “I was farming you ■■■■■■■ idiot”.

It turns out, they are very much interested in safe space.

@Io_Koval

I used to think like you, until Scipio provided me the data. Now I have an even more cynical view based on my personal experience: the higher prices will indeed entice some people from High Sec into their first Low Sec belt ratting foray, as the spawning rates do support the market. But they’ll get blown up for their first time instead of High Sec, and first learn about D-Scan in Low Sec. They will complain to CCP about how dangerous Low Sec is and send nasty Eve Mails to their killers.

CCP, ever in their quest to ease the burden on the complaint department, will make Low Sec safer.

@Io_Koval

@DeMichael_Crimson

That will more than likely raise the price of tags which would then hopefully entice more PvE players to farm those tags in Low Sec. Thus ultimately creating more targets for PvP, especially since the High Sec target pool will be diminished due to these new restrictions being implemented on negative Security Status…

…and then they’ll get killed while ratting in a LowSec belt and send hate mail to their killers and then whine to CCP about how much much much more dangerous LowSec is than HighSec and demand that the wide berth of difference in danger is reduced so that newbies to LowSec can be protected and have a chance to improve player retention or else they’d quit because HighSec is too boring and there’s not enough ISK to be made ratting in belts/anoms in HighSec and they refuse to rat in LowSec where it is just simply too dangerous.