As a Gallente capsuleer, stepping out of the pod, I can’t help but notice how underrepresented our faction is when it comes to PVP ships.
This mostly comes down to effectiveness—there just aren’t that many Gallente ships players are eager to take into PVP battles.
The imbalance becomes even more obvious when you start mentally listing ships from other factions—take the Minmatar, for example.
Frankly, Gallente ships could really use a rebalance when it comes to PVP viability.
What do you think?
Keres Deimos Thorax Proteus Hyperion are excellent Pvp ships.
These are 5 excellent ships.
But how many top-tier PVP ships do the other factions have? (Minmatar, Caldari, Amarr).
It seems to me that the other factions have significantly more ships being actively used in PVP, while Gallente appears to be the weakest overall when it comes to effective PVP hulls.
What’s your take on this?
Maybe something changed over the years, but Tristan used to be top PvP frigate, Vigilant was a menace in cruiser PvP and I’ve seen these videos how Vindicator takes on 20+ ppls in low and getting away with kills. Also, ENI was no so long ago the top dps cruiser used for ganking (sometimes still is by those who can’t afford or don’t want to multibox that many accounts). And VNI used to be the kinf of AFK ratting, but also was used in PvP.
But I am few years out of the picture so maybe new ships pushed Gallente hulls completely out of the meta.
Speaking of ganking, Atron can be used as a cheap option to kill explorers or ventures. Catalyst is still very popular option for mass multiboxing, although it fell out of meta a bit (most of us switched to coercers). Vexor is great for killing haulers (but it is true that Thorax is crap). Then there is Talos though it is now used only rarely, but still best for specific kind of job.
Unfortunately, Gallente ships have been reduced to a minimal presence in the current meta.
Only a handful of ships from the Gallente line are still worth using for PvP. Keres, Exequror Navy Issue, Lachesis, and Arazu are among the few ships nowadays that are considered effective and can be seen in PvP engagements. In my opinion, a rebalance is definitely needed. And as for the PvE side of things, it would be great if the Brutix could regain its former strength as well.
I happen to think there are many many exceptionally strong Gallente ships that are not only viable for pvp, but best in class! Here are a summary of all the ships I consider to be best in their class.
Frigate - Tristan: With neuts, blasters, rails, autocannons, pulse lasers… this ship is an unpredictable monster. It used to be seen more in FW space, but now everyone knows to run from them and they get fewer fights. Honorable mention to the Atron as best attack frigate.
Faction Frigate - Comet: Do I even need to say anything? This ship is the undisputed king of FW.
Destroyer - Algos: I prefer it over the Dragoon for its sweet hull HP pool. In fact, that hull HP pool is why so many of the Gallente ships are amazing, especially in the small ship class.
Tactical Destroyer - Hecate: The most common T3D for a reason, this thing hits just SO HARD! It has the range control to make it work, too!
Cruiser - Vexor: Another absolute beast in solo and fleet settings. Blasters coupled with big drone damage and either a strong armor tank or a decent shield buffer make the Vexor a fearsome target. The only reason why it isn’t used as much is because it is less engageable than something like a Stabber.
Faction Cruiser - Exeq Navy: Need I say more? Blastaaaaa powerhouse!
Recon/Force Recon - Arazu and Lachesis make premiere tackle ships in black ops or recon gangs. The Arazu is far more common than any other recon for dropping Blops or capitals.
Battlecruiser - Brutix: Cheap, sturdy, hits like a truck.
Navy Battlecruiser: Brutix Navy: Sturdier, faster, hit-like-a-truckier.
Command Ship - Astarte: A fantastic small gang railgun platform and the king of the true kiting Battlecruisers. Watch out for these in high octane roaming groups. Basically fear every Brutix hull because they are all around best in class.
Battleship - Hyperion: It’s called the King of Battleships for a reason. No other T1 subcapital can match its insane staying power. It hits like a truck, tanks unreal amounts of damage, and has 2 utility highs! What!
Marauder - Kronos: With the recent nerf to the Vargur, the Kronos is now the most feared Marauder. It is strong with both shield and armor setups, like a massive Ishtar.
Lancer Dreadnought - Hubris: I have no idea why people use it, I can’t wrap my head around the things. From what I see, people use Hubris a lot for smaller drops and gatecamps. The Bane seems to be the one for larger drops, but I see lone Hubrises quite often around hotbed lowsec areas like Amamake and Tama. Why do both of the hot lowsec systems in eve have “…ama…” in them?
Supercarrier - Nyx: Because it is an armor super with a fighter damage bonus, the Nyx will probably always be on top of all supercarriers in terms of popularity. Probably more of these in the game than Wyverns, Aeons, and maybe even Hels combined. Undisputed best in class.
Don’t fly the Erebus. It’s garbage.
I debated putting: Magus, Thanatos, Ishtar, Dominix Navy, Catalyst Navy, and Deimos in here, but…
Magus is outshone by the Bifrost in many situations. I do count it as far better than the slow Stork and Pontifex though.
Thanatos was long the king of carriers, but Nidhoggur is just better for conduit jumping as it aligns faster and is shield tanked.
Ishtar is used a lot, but it’s mainly PvE ships people have lying around. PvP Ishtars, when they do appear, are extremely scary.
Domi Navy is one of the best solo faction battleships, but it is not used as much as the Tempest Fleet or Raven Navy, from what I’ve seen.
Cat Navy is very well balanced and is probably the strongest faction destroyer in pure stats. It, however, suffers from having very little versatility. It’s always fit with blasters, MWD scram web, damage control, magstab, hull rigs. The only variability I see is whether they fit a 400mm plate or a Small Ancillary Armor Repairer.
Deimos is a very niche ship. It responds fantastically to bling but is hard to extract for a cruiser. People use the Vagabond and Cerberus more for response fleets because the Vaga is faster and the Cerb has good damage at longer range.
Enjoy yourself, have fun flying Gallente!
NO.
Minmatar ar built for speed + GTFO, gallante for firepower and drones
Learn to play
Thank you for your detailed comment!
You explained thoroughly, point by point and thematically, how you evaluate Gallente ships. I believe it’s contributions like this that are truly worth considering.
Some will find it inspiring, others thought-provoking. Thank you!
First of all, learn how to express your point. (Learn to Say)
Secondly, try to focus on the core of the topic.
i don’t see how killing 3 shitfit ships 11 years ago proves anything tbh
8 kills.
4 of them are pods and one is a scanning frigate. 3 ships
A gallante BC taking on 4 ships including 2 BC and a Blackbird shows that gallante are OP not underpowered. What you are experiencing is a L2P issue.
Let’s look at the actual data: top pvp ships in the past 90 days: https://zkillboard.com/shipType/ranks/k/all/recent/1/
Minmatar - 15
Caldari - 9
Gallente - 7
Amarr - 7
Non-Empire - 12
Minmatar are definitely over-represented a lot, but Gallente aren’t drastically out of line with Caldari and Amarr.
The fact that they tend to have balanced slot layouts means a lot of them are jack-of-all trades ships, not optimal but it’s definitely easier to shoehorn gallente ships into unusual fits than other empire ships. Great fun for kitchen sink fleets, or when having an unpredictable fit is important.
They’re not OP, Zaera’s comments based on a small and outdated anecdotal experience shouldn’t be taken seriously.
Censoring the toon is rather pointless when it takes 60s on zkill to identify it as Vampari Hawkus. It’s better to own your identities and experiences than pretend.
Especially when you post a battle report that makes the kills look like they happened in a single fight, rather than a sequence of different fights in Arnon, a system notoriously full of total newbies.
Actually it did.
Zaera gave them a good bumsmacking.
