HS ganking is easily prevented. You can survive a gank attempt. I flew with Aiko and she proved to me that ganking is harder than surviving a gank.
If you want some advice and help, ask. If you want to tuck tail and go play Hello Kitty Island Adventure for safe fun, fine.
Mining ships can be protected so that they are gank proof. Freighters can too. You don’t even need any scouts. You just need to avoid flying faction freighters. Also avoid flying the cheap ass faction T1 haulers. Fly T2 Covert Ops Blockade Runners.
If you are having fun in the game, don’t allow these ganking threads to keep you from having fun. They have been going on for years, always sound the same, and never improve the game or their own arguments.
I spend most of my time in High Sec. I run lvl 4 missions, afk mine, haul stuff from one trade hub to another to resell and do light industry and research. I have never been ganked, not even once. Ganking is not an epidemic problem.
These threads warning about the epidemic of high sec ganking are just fear mongering.
Occasionally gankers will get a great haul, and post videos about it, but mostly high sec ganking is waiting and waiting and not profiting. It’s like pvp videos. The videos contain footage of great fights, but don’t include hours spend hunting and having people warp off as you warp in.
Watch MacGybo’s ganking videos, ganking looks very boring to me. It actually makes hauling look exciting. And then realize that most of his videos are edited to remove most of the waiting.
If you are having fun doing what you don’t let other people harsh your mellow because they are making 1.2billion isk an hour with their “elite ganking, elite exploration, elite station trading, etc” game play. Most of this is just posturing and trying to get clicks anyway. Have fun playing the game the way you want to play it. Just don’t expect others to change their game play to please you.
I dont know why posting thread after thread on this is going to achieve anything. CCP like piracy, they like scamming and all the other shenanigans that have been in the game for aeons.
If you want change undock and burn Jita everyday until you get the change you want.
If you are talking about your 2 hauler loses.. well flying 500m/950m worth of stuff in a max cargo fitted Iteron Mark V with less then 3k ehp what would you expect to happen?
I’m waiting you showing how to gank correctly. Please make a YouTube channel with your streams where I will study how to do it easy and profitable… maybe call a channel : “easy ganks for noobs”.
It was too boring to sit on the gate with 2 windows waiting for some loot passing by (even when I was not going to loot, but wanted to be a Robin Hood, two will leave that loot for those who are in need). In the end just popped pods (traded destroyers on average to 40M implants, as rarely they were empty).
Please, sir! I had to move to nullsec as more safe space (as those who are not in blue should be blown up), that means much more targets and no need to waste a ship each time.
Then EVE is not the game for you.
EVE is a Massive Multiplayer Online RPG.
It is not impossible to find a group of likeminded players who would happily accommodate your crabby ways, and provide the security you crave.
The issue isn’t that there are no mitigation strategies. There are plenty.
You can tank your ship, scout ahead, use bookmarks, cloak, split cargo, avoid autopilot, or simply stay off grid.
But those are mitigation tools, not counterplay.
Counterplay means the defender has a way to meaningfully disrupt or punish the attacker’s operation.
In highsec ganking, the attacker chooses the time, place, and target. The engagement is pre-calculated, the hull loss is budgeted, and CONCORD guarantees a predictable endpoint.
The defender’s options mostly revolve around avoiding the attack entirely.
I think having them all fail to blow up your ship while they still lose theirs is a prime example of counterplay. It was fun the day I watched a fleet of Catalysts get blown up by Concord while my shields were still at 50%.
Disregard the stubborn comments of these other players Dude, u strike the problem RIGHT on the head. Why should you no be allowed to play the game you want if paying for it ? Why are you forced to be part of something that is costing YOU, and no one else. This lot goes on about flying safer, and bla this and bla that and that the game is not for you, but if you continuously gets ganked and loose a week’s work, build it up gain, then just to get pushed back another week by players doing the same, that is actually targéting other’s in a grieving exercise, and then hides it behind ‘‘ÇCP approved this’’. It’s an harassment game unfortunately, and the players exercising it are a community that is TOXIC AF, just as their game play and etiquette to others. They even host websites where they publicly ridicule and humiliate players *And CCP actually allows it! against their own TOS) and even mock them about the ganks. (And yah, watch this thread now with the replies from those exact bunch). They are a bunch of ppl throwing rocks from behind a stone wall (CCP) where they cannot get hurt and then has big mouths about it…
Dude, u clearly not on the receiving end of the problem. I flied with a full set of nirvana jhigh-rade implants to keep my buffer as high as possible, scouted lanes and everything. and even on top of that WITH a shield resistance and extension boost they still got me. guys are so full of advice but none of you has experienced what thees other and myself have,. U keep on preaching about flying safe and this and that , but in the end, seemingly that you cannot step outside your ‘learn to fly safe’ bubble it is evident that you are actually clueless in what you are saying, since you refuse to acknowledge from the start and just bluntly shoves off evrything sdomeone else is trying to say. You’re inputs are starting to leave a lot to be desired for. Go prounce around on your own new thread you made and go splurt your nonsense there.
If you’re going to copy my signature style, then at least do it right, you have to put your name below it. Also, this “pathetic” remark at the end is more telling about your own comment than about what you replied to.
Also this is my thread, you have no house right here, you can’t go around and tell people to leave my thread!! What are you doing?? I’ll have to gank you for that, just out of principle!
Now, just because you can’t seem to figure out how to keep a ship alive for more than one jump, doesn’t mean everyone else can’t! The sound advice you get here and that you are ignoring, works for 99% of players who apply it.
And yes, sometimes you can do everything right and still explode - that’s just the nature of EVE Online. Or humanity, even. People will tinker, experiment, test the limits, figure out ways to outsmart common advice, things get outdated, ET CETERA.
Sometimes you will just end up in the wrong place at the wrong time and that’s it. Doesn’t mean that the advice is bad. If anything, it’s better than to continue throwing billion ISK ships into the grinder without changing anything, expecting to get a different result.
Does it physically pain you to think about protecting your own ships? I’m honestly asking. If someone is throwing rocks from behind a stone wall, why not build your own stone wall? Is it laziness? Does the thought of not having anything to complain about scare you? What is it? Why do you stand there and let people hit you with rocks? That’s got to be the most childish mentality I’ve ever witnessed.
Highsec pirates deny players to play the way they want. But high-sec pirates still get their way. I agree with you yes, everyone should be allowed to play the game they want to, but in this case, it’s other players denying those rights to capculeers, while they still get their way. Pirates get their eway whilst everyone else just has to pay and are not allowed to enjoy the game they want to . Can you see the invalidation of this here ? What would you comment on this ? It kinda feels a bit like a one-way street atm you see
And you Sir are seemingly incapable of understanding this concept. Says a lot. Not worth discussing things with you further. You just proved your incompetence in the subject. SERIOUSLY stupid argument you made there…gosh