I think that’s perfectly fine. As long as CCP makes money, it’s all cool.
I can use words like “most” and “overwhelming” as well to try and use emotion to bring my points home. I don’t think you have showed us sufficient data to support that because my experience around gankers isn’t the same as yours might be.
Lets work off your assumption that most gankers are in it for the tears. Who cares? If it’s actual harassment or something that breaks the rules then report it. If not, then move on and either play the game… or don’t.
CCP hasn’t earned my confidence in much of anything since I started playing in 2012.
I think the “wheel of whining” is spread pretty evenly. I think everyone from different areas of the game complain about the same.
I would prefer CCP to fix on what is currently bug-ridden and broken. Continue to work on the UI, and go through a complete rebalance of every single ship class.
Ganking is done by a small section of the game, and really doesn’t even impact as many people as others would have everyone to believe. It’s not some infectious problem.
There is no strategic value in shooting them if you can base out of NPC stations. Once you can’t use NPC stations then there is value in shooting them. Niarja has a value. It is not difficult to see why.
Yes, but this is about hisec mechanics to develop more meaningful content in hisec.
Good glad that is cleared up.
The impact on the people who do the ganking.
It is stale and boring for people who want to make a run for it and take a risk, ah Macherial on gate, damn…and those that try to help, ah I have a catalyst to shoot, or wow the freighter did not go suspect but and Ibis did, what fun!!! Yes I am being sarcastic, it is dreadful gameplay for the other side.
They die all the time they are helpless easy kill whales. I love shooting Rorquals they have teeth.
You and Dom make yourselves look bad. Your post above is just so funny and full of your own projecting, especially inflating your own sense of self worth.
I have to post that bit again. You are a nothing, I am a nothing. I am not the one telling people I have a standing, I have told people that I am merely competent at this game and am unimportant. You on the other hand have a reputation known far and wide, ROFL. And you call me nuts!!!
Projecting yourself again.
Thank you for that post which I will now go to sleep on with a big grin on my face…
Sure, whatever. I’ve tried often enough. Until the next time you believe all i do is baiting you. Hey, it’s your paranoia, not mine. Keep living in this dream world of yours. When I log off, I don’t think a single second about you, because it doesn’t matter. You going to sleep taking this with you is nuts and you should seek help.
Yeah, again, no one is shooting the structure in Niarja so that argument is just pretty weak. And before you tell us the story about why you aren’t shooting it, please don’t it’s not relevant.
So it’s fine to punish countless FW and lowsec players becuase of 4 freighter gankers then… ok…
Sometimes it just seems you are watering down a thread of answers on purpose just because you don’t know what to write anymore. We initially talked about logistics here and how moving stuff from a citadel under attack is not an issue. But whatever, I guess I won that one.
Yeah I bet that is exactly how the Freighter pilot feels. He is completely ecstatic hyped about aligning his Freighter to warp like he is stuck in molasses and then watch it warp for couple of minutes for jump after jump until, ah Macharial on gate, damn… and then it’s all just boring and stale… yeah ok, I see your point…
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And yes, that is all that will be left once bumping is removed. Also those people chose to do that, no one forced them too. How about they just do something fun instead if it is so dreadful? Or is ag all about self-punishment? Looks a bit like that sometimes (and by that I mean all the time).
They have the thickest tank available in Highsec and are the only ships there who have a magic teleportation device. No, they are not helpless at all.
This HTFU philosophy is the reason I´m playing EVE right now as a relatively new player.
Yes, a long time ago I played WoW and I enjoyed the world pvp in it. I played on a PvP server for that reason, even though I rarely was the ganker. Why did I enjoy it if I didn’t gank? Because of the danger of being attacked by players, an unpredictable danger that scripted NPCs can never offer.
Who cares about shooting some space rocks or hauling stuff around in space? After seeing some of the pretty sights of ships and solar systems this game would become boring really fast, if not for the unpredictable danger of losing everything while you’re shooting space rocks or hauling stuff.
If I could remove the pvp flag in EVE to ‘safely learn how to play’, it would be safe to say I’d be bored after day 2 and off to another game. And you’re saying WoW has a flag now to remove PvP? What a terrible idea to make the game world predictable, but I guess it suits a game that doesn’t live on player interaction and tries to cater to everyone.
yer saying the freighter pilot’s only chance for interesting game play is when he’s getting bumped. i’d say that’s accurate. hauling stuff is pretty boring. makes zero sense saying that getting bumped is boring. it’s rather the complete opposite.
let’s go even further. the only interesting game play miners have is when they’re getting bumped. miners wanting to be left alone doesn’t matter when they’re not going somewhere where there aren’t any others. them getting bumped or ganked is the only action they likely ever see.
i’d bet half a leg of one of my corpses mission runners too rather get engaged by a suspect baiter than just running the same boring missions over and over again. missions are boring too and ya’ll know that. suspect baiters make a fun difference.
getting gate camped makes an interesting difference for travellers. there’s a huge difference between jumping every gate knowing there might be someone waiting and just jumping every gate knowing nothing’s going to happen.
why are people playing this game? because of its boring gameplay, or because of the dangers around it?
I have no doubt that the very real prospect of danger is an alluring aspect of the EvE gameplay.
But then why does the discussion constantly circle whether or not it is? Why for do we need all the threads on ganking, and player retention?
I ask this from a genuine standpoint. If you don’t like what EvE is, you are always free to not play. If you do like what EvE is, then everything should be pretty hunky-dory for you, right?
For all the Forum Warriors here throwing out self-evident truths, it does seem to be weird that they have to keep being said, doesn’t it? It could lead someone to think that people were being disingenuous about their desires, or about the state of the game.
(And naturally, those dishonest, deceitful people are on the opposite side of your preferred game style, right?)
I’ve often wondered the same thing. Why do we keep seeing repeat threads? I can only assume that there are plenty of people that don’t like what Eve Online is. I also assume that maybe it’s that the thread didn’t get the attention or support that was originally sought after.
I personally feel a responsibility to provide what I consider is a rational and informed view of what makes Eve Online the game it is. I have seen first hand an echo chamber turn into a crusade in which CCP listens to the angry mob and acts. I guess that really my personal involvement isn’t all that needed… after all CCP is gonna do what they wanna do. I think they hardly value me as a customer much less want my input on the game.
I guess I just like the feeling when my argument poops on another person.
