Have you seen Salvos, or Teckos?

I lived in Moscow from 91-96.

I know exactly how it happened.
I was there when it happened.
I went to school 500m away from the Russian Whitehouse.

How is this thread still open? No wonder people, including the devs, prefer Reddit instead.

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If it was a crap thread, why does it have 345 posts and max views, in 2days, despite my absence?

And seriously, have you seen how many crap threads there are constantly on reddit?

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The Kremlin you mean?

Fun fact, did you know the White house was burned by my elders in 1812?

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No, I dont mean the Kremlin.
I mean the Whitehouse.

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Are you serious? There was never less poverty than today. The current system has its flaws, but the picture you try to paint is completely wrong.

Maybe it would help if you don’t focuse only on the us, which is in many cases actually an outlier.

Were you spying? Lol

Oh, come on! That’s an easy one. He was salvoshing!

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I mean he claimed he was an Intel officer in the Finn army, why else would he be in Moscow? Lolll

Im a signals officer, not specifically intel, although the two overlap.

And legit what I said above is true.
91-96 in Moscow, attending the Anglo-American School situated in the US Embassy residential complex right across the street from the Whitehouse.

I witnessed the fall of the USSR, and all that followed, firsthand.

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I try not to focus on the US, but also I lived there only for a short time, so I’m not an expert. Actually I saw poverty there which surprised me a lot. I have been to poor countries before and I never expected to see what I saw in the US. Don’t get me wrong, I also saw a lot of cool stuff and some of the people I met there are easily amongst the chillest and nicest people ever, but there was poverty to a degree that I couldn’t believe.

Living in Europe I can tell that the economic situation here went really weird places. Even if there is a general average rise in wealth, it comes at a greater devide between rich and poor, which is mostly due to the cost for labour being pushed down further and further in relation to the profits of companies. Unless you live in a bubble you’ll have realized that the last decade brought significant amount of Crisis and re-distribution of wealth from the bottom to the top all over the continent.

@Jenn_aSide
WTF I just realized that your name reads like Genocide. Fck me, I’m slow :smiley:

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Military-grade salvoshing … they never stood a chance.

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It all started with you.

Then I came along

We proceeded to USA bashing ('cause why not. They deserve it.)
Then I brought the free market downsides into the discussion.
We had a talk about how the free market is totally dysfunctional and how the US would implode really fast if they had a real free market.
And out of all that spawned a discussion about free, regulated and social markets, which lead to the up- and downsides of communism being discussed now.

Isn’t this marvelous? A intellectually curious discussion on the EVE forums? It’s like we’re back in the golden ages of EVE!

I reckon it’s still open because this is an actual discussion with intellect and substance, not just two sides throwing mud at each other.

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Yeah, I was just there the other month for a conference and there where people in the city at every corner, sleeping on the street with nothing.

There are clearly serious issues there and I think the root cause is that the right still equates social institutions like they exist in most European countries to communism or socialism, which it just isn’t.

The question here is why is this happening. And as you pointed out it is only in relation, so it is in fact not a redistribution but the fruits of the increase in productivity do to automation does not trickle down to the workers. I think the reasons for this is that we have monopolistic structures like the patents in farma or the quasi-monopolistic structures of software and services in IT which leads to no price pressure which would start to regulate those things down. But that’s just an opinion

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Which is exactly why I’m surprised it is not already locked.

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Maybe Falcon hasn’t seen it yet, or he’s actually read through the thread instead of just the select few posts that the easily triggered / less intellectually able most certainly flagged.

You’ll find your answer in this article

I’ve got to maw my lawn now. Enjoy.

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ISDs are reading here, too. And as long as no flags go up or not too many will they be glad they’ve got us all in one thread. Might be it’s a quiet day for them and they don’t want to change that.

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:joy:

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