We need a “Main Anti-Ganking Thread” that all these discussions can be dumped into.
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Looks like you have no clue about police, you twinkytoe.
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25 Expansions, hundreads and hundreads of changes.
Moaning didnt change any of that, like it or not my idea is out.
Yes, and it will get burried underneath all the other rubble.
Just like the rest the next thread.
I hope you’re not seriously thinking this thread, is going to make any difference? I mean, I understand if you do, because apparently nowadays it’s the norm to have an absolutely unrealistic sense of self importance, thanks to modern media and propaganda, while there’s literally nothing to ever back that nonsense up, but still … you really think it matters?
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Then you should propose raising market taxes, maybe.
If it’s realism, you can’t even board a space ship to start with.
IMO talking about realism in a video game is not relevant, unless focused on specific field that the game intend to be realistic with.
What’s more important is consistency.
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??? then what would be the point in highsec ganking?
This is eve not WOW
See, the ORIGINAL SIN was Asset Safety.
This was inevitable.
Remove Asset Safety
Imagine a station exploding and thousands of cargo containers and ships come spewing out.
It would be Glorious! Logins would hit 100k.
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…to get all their assets out of citadels so some mouth-breather can’t steal them, then log off again for another year.
Hmmm…
Which would be more spectacular?
500 indies existing a station and getting ganked?
or
The station blowing up and disgorging cargo containers and ships?
I could go either 
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more like 500 jump freighters cynoing to another citadel.
be a glorious explosion seeing the likes of Thetastar of David or TTT or many others just going kaboom.
stick meet mud
there’s always that one.
lets be real tho, even an ark w a-types and HG amulet is no match for Kusion + Code Tax collectors. thats up to 41 catalysts. looking at the zkill it is quite obvious they do not cargo scan or even care if a ship is fitted.
I am not arguing with you about no asset safety, even tho that would make sense given that police are on the scene. all I am saying is that claiming that a tank will save you is either naive or moronic, and definitely laughable
Being tanked won’t save you, but it will make you less of a target. Just look at the freighter ganks on Zkill. Notice something? Most of them are untanked….
Not every ganking team is kusion and co.
The dude sleeps and cannot be in every system at once.
So having a tank is still an effective deterrent. Just not 100% safety. As it should be.
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Exactly. Nothing can save you if someone is determined to kill you no matter what the cost. But the more you reduce the pool of potential attackers the more likely you are to survive because the few threats are busy killing someone else.
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I get through Niarja and Uedama if they or the Aggresively Average gankers are online by waiting until they hit someone else and are inoperable, zkill and a bit of cloaked observation get you info on who is in their crew. Scouts, tackle, gankers and looters and the wreck defenders, as well as the stations and fortizars they frequent. From there it is a matter of adding contacts and using a web alt to scout before your freighters jump the gate.
granted newbros, and/or anyone who has never lost a freighter/blops/faction bs/marauder in HS before probably had not thought to put this much effort into it.
So you want to get rid of piracy gameplay? Just because you can’t be arsed to take a few steps that will make you immune we have to remove an iconic part of the game that has been there for 16 years?
Oh and about that realism thing… what police you know in RL is magically aware of every crime and spawns within seconds next to the crime scene while the thing is still going on?
If we want to introduce some realism here then how about CONCORD maybe only shows up after the everything went down because your mom told them you did not come home for supper. They will then write it down and go back to eating donuts until one day some filthy miner stumbles over your corps in the asteroid we buried your wreck in. How is that for more realism?
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