Horrors and Reprisals in Floseswin as situation stablises

And because capsuleers are easily bored.

That, my friend, is something these organizations have learned to mitigate. It’s one of the reasons fleet comms are so horrible: half the job is keeping the fleet entertaining itself when nobody turns up to get blown up.

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Both of our alliances certainly have the raw numbers individually to fill those fleets. Having those numbers in the alliance is not the same as being able to provide that coverage. Most of them require prodding in order to participate in any sort of fleet, let alone something like that which requires sustained tedium. Capsuleers are not often inclined to that sort of occupation action. If our alliances arranged that sort of thing, I would not expect the raw numbers to translate to actual fleet participation. It would be more likely that capsuleers would leave our alliances for others which promise more opportunities to sate their bloodlust. That is why capsuleers are not a plausible deterrent. They cannot sustain their focus on a war effort long enough to see it to the end. Capsuleers lack the attention span long enough to finish off an enemy. They occasionally wound an enemy badly enough that the enemy bleeds out later, but on other occasions, such as your own alliance, it recovers from its wounds and becomes stronger from the experience than it had ever been in the past. I hope to see this sort of war experience strengthen my own beloved Empire: the furnace of war shall burn away the impurities which weaken the metal.

Of course capsuleers want to destroy it. However, it provides too much convenience to be worth the considerable effort of doing so, especially considering that capsuleers greatly benefit from the convenient services which it provides.

So you’re saying Horde can’t fill those fleets? Because we can. We did, in fact, only 7 months ago when we burned down Tribute. Full fleets, round the clock, with no fights. If you think your membership would leave over having to actually pull their weight, perhaps your alliance needs to find ways to make sure they are more solidly integrated into your social network.

No, I am saying that while we have recently been consistently bringing larger numbers than your considerably larger alliance, the bulk of neither alliance would be willing to commit to the sustained occupation necessary to truly end a conflict. The incident in Tribute was a small, fast occurrence (which my corporation, Sniggwaffe, was not party to, having been independent at the time despite historic ties to Pandemic Legion). The capsuleers in your alliance and its allies would have grown bored and moved on if they attempted to move in and occupy the area until our coalition died. While two alliances which had already seen their best days pass are in worse shape than they were before, my own alliance emerged stronger than it had ever been, just as yours emerged stronger from World War Bee, when its enemies could not maintain interest for long enough to occupy and truly end it. If you doubt that the people most eager to actually fight would get bored and look elsewhere, I was in Tribute just now and you might recognize a few names. This is also the reason why my own corporation has been independent for the majority of its existence.

A month solid is not a ‘small, fast occurance’. And we never had any intention of ‘moving in’. The question was whether or not we pursued.

And yes, we’ve mostly only sent one fleet up to the fights you’ve been helping TEST with, but that’s because they’re nothing we really care about. We’ll help DeadCo against you when they ask, but it’s nothing to really make an effort about.

As for the names currently in Tribute… heh. Trigger Happy are not ‘the people most eager to actually fight’. Those are the people whose egos get in the way of following orders. With a cluster full of enemies, someone who can’t be assed to do more than the absolute minimum amount of work to get a fight… that’s not an asset.

Oh, and as for your own corporation? Leading Waffles was not ‘independent’. Sniggwaffe has had a long history of anchoring a feeder alliance for Pandemic Legion. And it was where it was for that very specific purpose. If Grath were to come out of retirement and order it back to that role, it would go.

You just keep thinking that. While it is true that Sniggwaffe originated as a feeder corporation for Sniggerdly, it has recently been more common for people to move from PL into WAFFLES, including Grath himself. The child has certainly surpssed the parent in every way other than the size of its supercapital fleet.

But yes. TEST has joined a conflict which as far as I can tell started because NC. and PL want to regain their former glory.

I mentioned Tribute in particular because it is in the nature of empires that if they do not keep their warriors satisfied, those warriors will leave. What remains without the warriors inevitably becomes a fat and decadent entity ripe for conquest, even if it may have a respectable amount of soldiers. Without those warriors, a once-strong empire will ultimately become easy pickings for the next group of nomads to emerge on its fringes.

This is the purpose which I have found for myself. I seek to preserve and restore the strength of the Amarr Empire by tempering it with war, so that it may regain its dominion over the cluster and bring the other empires into obedience under God. I do not look upon my adversaries in the Providence Marches as enemies, nor do I seek to destroy them. I wish to harden and strengthen them through the experience so that they may better protect their part of the Empire. I have seen some of the threats which are coming. I have seen Sansha’s horrors waiting to return to New Eden, far beyond their usual incursions, during my time spent in Anoikis. I have seen the Drifters. I have become familiar with the technology at the backbone of the Triglavian menace and it scares me more than any of these other threats. They are committed to ending New Eden itself, not just ending lives in New Eden, and they destroy stars in order to fuel their strange technology. In the future, we may see worse horrors and we must make sure that the Empire is prepared to stand against them.

Returning back to the original topic at hand, the unfortunate acts which occurred planetside are simply the result of flaws inherent to humanity. We as capsuleers do not have any moral high ground to condemn them when we, set free from the limitations that a human body places on those flaws, commit similar acts in space vastly more often than they occur planetside. If anything, what occurred planetside was more honest because the people involved had to come close enough to look each other in the face and see that both parties are human. In space, we can lie to ourselves, pretend that it’s just a ship, just a structure, no people involved, just as we lie to ourselves and call ourselves immortal and beyond human. That being said, efforts to aid the faithful on the surface in order to bring them through the trials and hardships into a glorious future are still worthy of commendation.

Never heard of ‘artillery’, huh?

Maybe you do that. I fly logi. When I’m in-harness, my whole job is ‘save lives’. I have no illusions about what exactly is inside those cracking eggshells I’m trying to hold together. And every one we lose stays with me.

We’re nothing of the sort. People claim immortality because they’re just really, really uncomfortable with the idea that we’re disposable and mass-produced, with a new Arrendis popping out of the dispenser whenever the old one gets broken. Just copies, all of us.

Don’t know if this is an insult or flattery, but do carry on I find it entertaining to read these posts

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