Ccp has wasted a lot of our time and money on failed projects. Vanguard will just be another one. They should be putting the money we give them into the game we are paying for. Maybe they’d actually be positive money wise on the yearly earnings report if they focused on the one game they have that people actually want. Some of you have been playing long enough to remember Dust others here are new and don’t know anything about it. This isn’t the first time CCP tried making a pet project fps with real game integration. It failed just like this one’s gonna. Every single side project they have dumped money into has failed. They need to spend that time, money and energy on eve.
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It’s not your money (nor your time).
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As a person who spends their time not doing anything of real value and only simply effectively steals from people in game by baby seal clubbing I can see why you wouldn’t understand how basic capitalism works.
I’ll break this down so even a grade school student would understand it. Money talks and it speaks all languages. Companies want our money. We invest our money regularly, in this case monthly. For a rather large portion of the game multiple times monthly because multiple characters. We have certain expectations from the company we give our money to and if for some reason they don’t meet those expectations they stop getting our money. Enough people do that and the company starts to realize “hey maybe we shouldn’t have done that”
Welcome to today’s lesson on basic economics and capitalism.
If the analytics from this comment I’ve posted in other places are accurate it would seem more than 70% of the people who’ve interacted with it agree with the original statement.
People genuinely either don’t know or just forget how much power we actually have over companies just by either spending or not spending. We have the power to decide whether a company fails or succeeds collectively.
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For every dollar you don’t send to CCP, I will send them two.
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Ccp cant just be a one trick pony. If dust wasn’t made on a dying system it would have worked
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Your math is still a little off. The analytics from the cross post show 70% of people agree. So if 70% of eve decided to not pay for eve for a few months youd have to pay 140% to effectively “pay $2 for every $1 not spent”
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You tell me you know so much, but you also tell me you had no time to read and verify your claims of the initial post against the last fiscal reports from CCP? As I suppose that would take the air out of your posts?
analysis of CCP’s financials, the studio recorded net losses of $18.8 million in 2023 and $19.5 million in 2024, despite increasing revenues in 2024. The studio’s cash on hand also fell significantly over this period. Pearl Abyss reported a significant operating loss in Q3 2024, leading to a low point in revenue over the last five quarters. In June 2025, reports from Korean media surfaced that Pearl Abyss was seeking to sell CCP Games. This was attributed to CCP incurring significant losses and failing to meet the parent company’s expectations since the acquisition in 2018. The rumors were followed by a statement from Pearl Abyss clarifying its position. In 2022, Pearl Abyss recorded a $50.9 million impairment loss on CCP Games, primarily due to higher interest rates and lower forecasted growth rates. This was a revaluation of CCP’s assets and indicated that the expected future earnings were lower than initially anticipated at the time of the 2018 acquisition.
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Well, the thing is they have to try to expand and try new things. It’s healthy for any enterprise. It just happens that most of their stuff fails. But they got it right with EVE. I don’t know what their rate of success is, but maybe they need to go through 500 failed projects, and then that 501st is a success again. Not sure EVE players are willing to dump that much money into it, but we have so far.
You do know that most game studios have multiple titles right? Why is CCP getting the blame? If they weren’t trying to branch out, most of that money would not go into EVE Online, but towards PA or CCP executives.
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They could do that.
They could also make me development lead and we go through 10 projects and have 10 major, internationally renowned and multi-award winning successes that literally end world war 3 because everybody wants to play my cool games and not die for old rich people and mega corps.
All they have to do is ask me, and it’ll be done, just like that. Insurmountable glory and renown is just a questionmark and a handful of US dollars away…
With creative regards
-James Fuchs
Most people know what WD-40 is. But the story behind its name is a bit cooler and something I tell my members at my work when they try and try and dont seem to succeed.
You see the 40, in WD-40, stands for its 40th attempt at making a lubricant. Its now a world famous name brand product. Had they stopped at 39 wed have never known it at all.
As much as I hate CCP spending money on sh*t titles and crappy vaporware at least theyre trying. Sure Hilmar is probably just wasting money to make him and a few rich and also keeping the lights on for Eve, nevermind paying his workers and staff, but yeah… at least theyre trying something new. Yes, I believe it could be in better stuff but theyre trying to engage on cutting edge markets to find the next billion dollar game. Hilmar might be throwing money away but I think hes throwing it into the market to try to make more.
So cut CCP and their vision down all you want, the one thing Hilmar is is a salesman of his visions. Yup, theyre not the best as I think theyre long shots but if they manage to pay off youll see fireworks. So least theyre trying something instead of just sitting on a one trick pony.
But then… opinions are like a**holes, everyones got one and they all f-ing stink! 
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Now there’s an idea. Disco in station…
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I’m not sending them 125 dollars per month best get on that send ing 250 to them…………….you make debates difficult…..
250 sent.
My problem is this horrid event. CCP can branch out if they like, but it’s ridiculous to try to force the space sim playerbase into an extraction shooter. I’m willing to bet that the segment of the gaming community that likes both genres is very small.
That’s why I can say this is the worst event I’ve ever seen in any game. I find it really inappropriate and unacceptable, in fact. They’re trying to hamstring players into playing Vanguard by requiring 2400 NPC kills to complete the event if you only play EVE Online and not Vanguard. The point value of the Vanguard side compared to EVE Online is a slap in the face to all loyal EVE Online players. It’s especially horrid for those who love and specialize in SKINR. Most of the rewards are for SKINR, and those rewards are locked behind 2400 NPC kills for an EVE Online player. My girlfriend is one of those, and we CAN’T do the 2400 NPC kills because our Alliance is in two wars right now (Bully Brigade and BLACKFLAG). That makes the event virtually impossible for anyone who plays EVE Online only and is in a Corporation/Alliance with structures.
I would probably get warned or banned if I said what I really though right now. That’s how enraged I am at this event. CCP should do better, and I hope they have a plan to make it up to those of us who were never interested in Vanguard. This is unacceptable.
CCP should consider an opt-out that we can click to remove the event from our tracker in EVE Online in exchange for all the SKINR elements; they can keep the loot boxes, they rarely have anything good anyway. Gating SKINR elements behind Vanguard is just plain wrong. I have stronger words than that, honestly, but again, I’d be hit with the banhammer for saying them. Even the word enraged is an understatement if I’m really honest.
Simply put, the mistake was tying the two games together.
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No one is forcing us to play both. Yes one affects the other, they are shared. However just like there are Wormholes and Abyss, no one is forced to do both activities in EVE online.
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Except they’re trying to do exactly that.
Go back and read my post again. THEY ARE LOCKING SKINR ELEMENTS BEHIND A CROSS-GENRE GAME. How can you defend this crap?
Except that you can completely ignore Vanguard and grind those skinr components in EVE Online only. I’m not going to re-read a post that is just incorrect.
Don’t talk down to me. There is NOTHING incorrect in my post. You saying that only proves you didn’t read it to begin with! Like I said, grinding it out in EVE Online requires 2400 NPC kills! That’s kinda hard for people in Corproations/Allliances that are involved war! It’s also hard for players who have a lot of other resposibilities, including 24/7 caregiving, since it requires putting in a lot more time than usual.
Pull your nose out of the devs’ rears for a moment and listen FFS. I’ll put it another way, and don’t be so dismissive.
You have to play a new game in a genre that could barely be further from the original to get items that are exclusive to the original game!
They aren’t trying to lure in extraction shooter players, they trying to force an extraction shooter on space sim players. This is also shown by the fact that people who ONLY play EVE Vanguard don’t get the bulk of the rewards for this event, which are items for EVE Online!
That’s hard proof that they’re trying to drag EVE Online players into EVE Vanguard, which is just one of the worst ideas ever. I’d bet that the cross-section of the gaming community that plays both space sims and extraction shooters is probably one of the smallest segments you can find. The only genre that would be worse would be, maybe, sports.
I’ve never played an extraction shooter, or any similar game, in my entire life, nor do I want to. That goes triple for my SKINR girlfriend. We’re not even saying they shouldn’t have EVE Vanguard, I don’t have any issue with them making an extraction shooter. We’re not even saying they shouldn’t have a cross-promotional event. But when Sega can do better cross-promotion with PSO2:NGS, it’s time to step back and take a look at the trainwreck.
This event could easily be solved even by having an event mission delivering mining materials to a station that would feed IN to the Vanguard side instead of ONLY having an output FROM Vanguard as part of the event.