I mean conditions as stated in point 2 of my 3 prong strategy, which you completely ignored, cos you cant into reading comprehension.
What a funny troll.
This is sad and ludicrous.
Your âhidden detectionâ was covered over 200 posts ago, and repeatedly since, in point 2 of my 3 point proposal, yet you act like it never happened, trolled me incessantly and also refused to answer me when I specifically asked you about âhidden detectionâ methods that you would propose:
No, itâs not. I just want you to understand how bots work and you did learn a few things.
WowâŚ
The problem here is not how to detect BOTâs⌠it is how to not unduly burden non-BOTâs in BOT detection.
Couple of thingsâŚ
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CCP is unlikely to comment on EXACTLY what they use for detection, that would just be stupid. It is well known, however, that they have extensive activity logs. It would be inane for them to NOT be using data analytics on this mountain of information.
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If it is known what behavior is looked for, those who wish to not get caught will not perform said behavior. For argument, lets say after 6hrs of doing X that a test is presented to the âplayerâ⌠they will do X for 5hrs⌠or 4hrs. That detection metric will continually need to decrease time to be effective, this will then eventually encroach on more and more real players. Police have to deal with this IRL with policy, here in the virtual it is no different in that capacity.
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Unless there is NO time limit on responding to a âBOT Testâ, a real player, can, and will, fail to confirm they are not a BOT within said limit. If there is no time limit, then the test is meaningless as a human can eventually respond and prove âNot an BOTâ. If said test suspends activity from the client until challenge is complete, then said real players will be even further burdened.
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The best times for a challenge would be during session changes as this would pose the least burden on a real player. Avoiding issues of âI was in combat now my ship is goneâ or âI donât understand the test and I cannot dock, now people are shooting meâ or âWe have been roaming for the last 2hrs and I have to answer this test and cannot do X FC, sorryâ or âI would love to be repping you but⌠BOT testâ. Testing at session change is also the least likely place to ever catch a BOT.
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I would like to have delayed local, but for reasons completely unrelated to any of this.
Also, your âAnti Bot Fieldâ test, the thing with the dots. Assuming the logic was to draw a line that connects the same color dots without connecting non-matching dots. That is an object recognition and pathing test, it is done all the time⌠not sure what the others are supposed to be though.
It was just a simple early draft.
If you cant understand the others, neither will a bot
Bots are like drugs.
Legalize and tax them, formalize their use, takes away the power of cartels, makes their rush less interesting and means less effort on investing ressources in detection and punishment.
The others do not speak to a particular function, this might as well be your test following said logic.
Clearly the solution to this is âŚ
Solution
3 disks must be rotated so the cyphers align within the brackets
3 bars must be moved up/down to align sequence of cyphers
Vortex moves and must be clicked with cursor reticle
These are just rudimentary drafts to help people get out of thinking of them as typical browser âCAPTCHAâ with static cyphers to be repeated or static image squares to click, and consider the options the EVE client offers for dynamic/interactive integrated minigames as bot tests.
This just shows how out-of-date you about such matters.
A computer program actually does make the diagnosis, and in many cases it does better than the relevant human expert. The only reason it has to be reviewed is the political impact of an unreviewed incorrect diagnosis, not an implication which would arise with Eve hacking.
Citation needed.
No, its for ethical reasons, not political.
No program makes a diagnosis. Only offers data to inform a physicians diagnosis, and/or prognosis.
The software and hardware used in such procedures are dedicated to purpose, IP protected/proprietary, substantially funded, with extensive specialist staff, and beyond the means of an EVE player programming in his basement.
There are to date no reliable hack/probe bots active in EVE.
Focus instead on mining and ratting bots, which do exist and are harming balance and economy.
Use Google and donât act like some troll on a bridge demanding a citation of every second poster because of your lack of knowledge. It just looks dumb on you when you have to ask others for it. Donât be so lazy.
Im a medical professional in training with interest in medical science.
I know the ethical standards involved, and what these programs involve in healthcare.
A computer program cannot make a diagnosis.
Your issue, and that of the other poster, is you donât understand what âdiagnosisâ means in healthcare field. You probably think even you can diagnose yourself, cos youve read a few wikipedia articles on a few medical conditions.
No, thatâs what you think. And what professional training are you getting? That of a nurse?
Registered Nurse.
So youâre not even a nurse yet.
You dont understand the process of obtaining that legal title, alongside legal/ethically enforced duties/responsibilities in acting with that professional title.
In Finland, its a 3.5yr Bachelor degree, involving several periods of practicals working in various fields as a practicing nurse.
The ethical/legal issues of whom can, and cannot, make a diagnosis are basic matters handled already in the first year.
You have no idea what you are talking about, and trolling/derailing.

You dont understand the process of obtaining that legal title
Yes, we do. Even you as a Nurse will be able to make a diagnosis as you become more experienced, but you cannot, because youâre simply not allowed to. Dravick then already explained it.

The only reason it has to be reviewed is the political impact of an unreviewed incorrect diagnosis

Even you as a Nurse will be able to make a diagnosis as you become more experienced, but you cannot, because youâre simply not allowed to.
Registered Nurse. I explained what that entails above.
Its a legally/ethically protected professional title with duties/liability/responsibility attached.
You still dont get it.
Give it up.
This is beyond your understanding and repeated off-topic/derailing.
The software used in these kinds of medical diagnostic processes (especially regarding collating data from imaging of various types) could perhaps be re-engineered to work as part of a hack/probe bot, but no basement EVE programmer has access to that software and will its very unlikely they can do so without a team of developers whom both understand the program and know how to adapt it to something so mundane as EVE.
If you have evidence of bots reliably capable of hacking/probing existing in EVE, please make a report to CCP on it.
Otherwise, its a non-issue.
Focus on dealing with ratting and mining bots, which do exist, and are harming balance/economy/reputation of EVE.
After that, we can look at market bots, which while just largely an annoyance, are still interfering with other players game, via automation.