How to fix the bot problem and make people happy

This debate is now a moot discussion :slight_smile:

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You keep saying that, but just saying it over and over again doesn’t make it true…

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You have no evidence that they exist.

Focus on remedies against mining and ratting bots, which do exist, harm balance/economy/reputation and can be dealt with in large part.

I do actually. It is not something the rules here allow to discuss or even link, as Falcon has pointed out a few times, but it is something I have sent to security at ccpgames dot com for each trace and source. I’m not the only one, there’s a few people in a null block who hunt sig bots and who regularly send in reports. As far as we can tell it’s a single codebase, but with addins / specialisations, connected to the intel net bots used to map / block null traffic / activity.

I already like you. You are sitting on a lot of information and keeping it for yourself. Teach me how you bypassed and diversified your botting master

I’m actually not a very likeable person, but alright? The rest of that made no sense to me, my apologies, it’s probably me not getting it.

You don’t see yourself. You haven’t produce any evidence. You’ve only presented ideas. And when people tell you about the problems computers have already solved do you ignore it. You’re just a hypocrite.

Now you’re telling us you’re training to become a nurse, while in every video I’ve seen by you do you hold a cigarette in your hand. That’s only more hypocrisy.

Yeah was thinking of registering on their forums, might be better to post there, but I haven’t found a Black EvE section…:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Cant prove a negative.
You claim they exist. Well, prove it.

Lolwat?
I dont tell patients what not to do. Im not a police officer.
I inform/advise patients what is harmful to their health to do.
What they do is up to them, and entirely their own choice.
Ive frequently helped patients, including those in wheelchairs or with memory/cognitive problems, go outside for a cigarette.
I myself never smoke while on the clock.

Step 1: make local like wormhole space
Step 2: Create a new class of Covert Ops ship and module that can’t be used in combination with a cloak (Omega accounts only) which at full training gives a 100% accurate display of who is in system.

High sec exceptions:
-Suspect/Criminal automatically shows up in the local chat channel
-Module range is system wide
-Module is instant

Low sec exceptions:
-Module has 10second delay

Null sec exceptions:
-Module has a 30 second delay

W-space exceptions:
Module doesn’t work

Reasoning for delay structure:
Gates/stations/structures are now equipped to identify and broadcast the information on pilots in system. In high sec, the information is readily available. In low-sec, due to lower population, the information takes some processing time. In null, it takes even longer.
Due to the nature of said technology, you cannot log out in space and then back in without triggering your identity being in the next broadcast. If you enter the system through a wormhole, no-one knows you are there until you dock, use a starbase, enter a gate, or talk.

One can certainly prove negatives. You only haven’t learned how. It’s just one more of your dumb claims.

We told you to report the bots. You then claimed it wouldn’t stop bots and your claim was based on hearsay by others, certainly not on evidance. CCP released their numbers and it dwarfed all hearsay, showing how effective they truly are.

You use words such as “random”, “dynamic” and “interactive” to describe your popups, but the word you’re really looking for is “magically”. You want popups to magically stop bots, simply because you cannot grasp how to effectively stop bots.

So now you’re telling us to report bots. :roll_eyes:

And you really don’t see how a smoking nurse is hypocrisy? You’re amazingly ignorant.

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We all know mining and ratting bots exist in abundance, and that they are harming balance/economy and reputation of EVE.

All options to remedy that should be explored and as many as feasible implemented.

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Why? Ever looked at BDO afk income mechanisms? I can assure you, commercial thinking will see seriously ample options to make botting pay for PA.

This may sound cold, but I really think that this debate is pretty much over until it becomes clear what lessons and options PA will decide to take over time for this subject.

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The solution is not MORE pvp it is LESS…

This isnt about BDO.

All botters must rot in hell, as should those that shill for them.

Aye, but this kind of core debate is now not CCP’s prerogative anymore. It is subject to directives and targets set by venture planning from the owner. This is why policies were changed, to influence being more attractive, this is why it has not received any further resource allocation from CCP prior to geting sold, and it will take a long time for it to become an actual topic once again for the company. Which is PA. Not CCP.

This is not about CCP or PA.
It is about the bot problem.

Stick to topic.

You want bots handled. We all do. Who is the party who sets policies and decides on measures? The studio decides on the measures. The policies are determined by venture targets.

You may not like it. I certainly do not like it. But this subject is effectively on hold, because CCP has been sold. They now only determine measures. No longer policy, no longer targets.

That sucks monkeyballs. This is not off-topic. The problem is that the dynamic in which we are having and exploring the topic has changed fundamentally. Honestly, did you never wonder why CCP this year massively decreased the sanction timers on botters? All part of the roadmap.

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Excellent.

Then lets return to discussion on how to get that done.