Again…where are they getting the feedback is something else.
Calling names has never been a good way to discuss technical issues. In my experience, at least.
We have to try it first, before anything can be said for certain.
Or, even better, allow us to make our own HUD’s. And everybody will be happy.
That would be the best thing, but CCP can’t even code and design their own UI/UX properly. Expecting adequate tools, means and quality to create our own HUD designs would be asking the impossible.
Well, if you quote my post where I explain in detail why the standard proportional HUDs, which are showcased above in CCP slides (so CCP is only considering those), do not work to properly convey what your ship will do in terms of tank behavior, and go on to say that the exact opposite of what I have explained is better, then calling names is justified. More name calling would do this world a whole lot of good, to be frank.
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The ideas are fantastic and i look forward to it how they turn out. One thing that could also be added next to the HUD is buttons for the drones. My idea is that if you have 5 drones in your drone bay that you get 5 buttons. There should also be a possibility to group those drones on one button. That / those button(s) should show if they are in the drone bay (grey), if they are idle (green circle) or if they are fighting (red circle), getting damaged (full circle flashing red). If you have more drones in you bay then 5 you can select which drones you want group (right click on button gives a popup of drones available and ones you have picked a drone it gets removed from that list.) So you can have mining drones, fighting drones and salvaging drones all in their seperate groups. The drone window takes up to much space on the screen. if you want to manage and see which drones are fighting, idle, in drone bay, etc. you need to have it quite large to be able to see everything and if you would have it as buttons that would make life so much easier, as they are simply said, just weapons, so why keep them seperate. 
I still think the bigger question is where they got the feedback that the players wanted the HUD changed? When you have a dev team that struggles to even keep the game running without weird glitches and they go down paths like this it is guaranteed to create hostility.
I’d suggest we’re now in the phase of the dev-player breakdown when we will be told “You think you want that, but you don’t” and “Don’t you guys have phones?”
somewhere you were banned from. thats where.
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what about an opt in/out of stupid updates by the devs button
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Sure, then they’d only be wasting resources instead of pissing off players. Problem is opt in/out is guaranteed to be followed a year or two later by “in order to better direct dev resources, as of DATE we will no longer be supporting…”
this first phase is opt-in..
I think the whole thing has to be where the hud is old, and they need to update the coding and stuff so why not make it a fresh look.. im all for it.
While they’re at it maybe they could paint an amusing Burger King crown on the Mona Lisa? Freshen things up!
LOL!!!
and why not crack the hud whenever you take damage! and then maybe have there be a highlight reel of combat against other people on killmails that leave you defensless in space to be killed in turn!
WELL actually i think the ability to see hilight reels of killmails would be pretty neat.
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Relatively, I wouldn’t be against the screen having cracking graphics…especially if you are in a pod.
Although to be fair if they are using the discord for feedback. Thats going to be a major problem.
Using Discord for info isnt and never has been a problem. In this day of age of gaming as we know it, Discord is becoming the #1 source of all information now. Its quick, efficient, and real time.
And generally speaking of course, its only a problem if people cant control themselves. If youre spamming info over and over and people are telling you to stop…and you dont?..then get banned?..then youve just lost a major source of info and feedback.
Thats on you, not Discord.
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I use Discord for other stuff, and it has its good points and bad points. Personally I don’t have the time to look at 3 different places (Official forums, Discord, Reddit) for just one game, and I don’t like the fact that past information is hard to find on Discord. But if someone else prefers Discord it is totally cool - each person chooses what works for them and what they prefer.
If FCCP is looking at opinions and suggestions, and responding on Discord it is fine. However, my question would be: Why are they not giving the same attention and responding on this forum also? Because in the dev blog there are links to both places:
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I totally agree with you. If i had it my way…i would want ALL eve related info/feedback/solutions posted here on the games official forum. Thats where it needs to be and should be.
My only answer to why its not is because player opinions may be a bit harsher here no matter how much is given. Some folks will complain just to complain no matter the amount of information you give them.
Im aware that can happen on any informational platform…but to me it does seem the displeasure is more abundant here than anywhere else.
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Yes, Discord is great for real-time information exchange, e.g. for teams during an actual online gaming session, or answering a specific support question for a person having trouble.
It’s pretty terrible for many other things, especially the exchange of general information when it would be helpful for others in the future (e.g. if the answer to a support question would help others, then that is all but lost with Discord because it’s not indexed by public search engines and its own search system is naff).
That’s why I think it’s bananas for companies to move towards Discord for generic purposes, when this so disadvantages all users who were not active within Discord during a particular exchange.
In my experience, a busy Discord server “works” when everyone involved can visit it really often, like basically every day. Forums work well even if you can visit only rarely.
Yup. It’s surreal for the official forum to be a second-class source of info.
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I also fully agree with you on that. Im a person that gamed through the years being involved with that said game and its forum religiously. Im a forum junkie because as you mentioned, its information thats searchable forever anytime you need it. I think its unfortunate that people are sunsetting their forums and replacing it with discord, but its just the direction that things are headed it seems.
Yep, for the reasons i mentioned above.
Ive always cherished my participation with any forum i ever was a member of. It’s extremely disheartening to me when thats taken away.
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yeah, the hud threads are CAUSING DISCORD IN THE EVE COMMUNITY!
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I posted somewhere that the forum posters used to always harass the devs which is likely why they dont come here very often. I dont see that on the discord
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