Just wanted you all to know I logged in today. I’ve not for a while and just thought I would take a look at the new thorax model. It’s pretty.
I did however notice something. I felt awfully alone. I’ve not got any of the third party coms stuff atm and I logged into my jita alt first. Then my main. I noticed that after a period away and coming back EVE really has no in game community. Like none. The in game community is desolate, dead, non-existent. I waved in local and of the hundreds or so there I was only met with figurative tumble weeds. I mean I know what Jita is like. But it never struck me as so desolate before. The normal scams and spams seemed hauntingly inhuman. Here in 2025 the bots seemed so old fashion compared to the likes of chatgpt Ai conversations even. Jita the hub of eve. its most busy place and you could not even see 2 humans having a casual conversation about anything happening in the game.
So yea I think I’ve noticed a big problem. EVE itself is doing nothing to make its players talk to each other on a personal level. its not breaking walls down between people anymore. I remember when I first started playing and I met and spoke to loads of people just via local text chat.
Then i remembered talking in local has been made so taboo over the years. a culture of fear has been propagated by third party coms use and alliances hunting spies with strict api. That no one talks outside of their little family of players anymore.
EVE use to feel like it was alive and had a soul. now it seems like its either really hostile, antagonistic or empty. CCP need to do something to make the game have a mixing pot of communications and interactions in game again. it seems odd to me that they have surrendered so much of the core fabric of how a mmo works to third parties be that alliances or third-party software that their game feels more empty than most single player games do now.
Thats my 2 cents on logging in today. take it or leave it. The cruiser model updates are cool. Now do the capitals. Some of them look very dated.
Serious? Local is for intel and not for socializing? How about joining a corp or one of the many help channels? Lots of chat going on there.
Also especially in Jita and other trade systems it just makes no sense to try a conversation in local. No one can ever follow it with all the ads and spam rushing through. Sane people have local closed.
Many people tend to ignore local chat in Jita, due to all the spam.
Even then you should be able to start a conversation there once you’ve automatically filtered out all the hypernet spam and scam contracts with the few other players who have done the same.
I don’t usually talk in local chat as there are many other channels to reach my allies, but the few times I do I often do get conversations.
The sad reality is that many players, especially the most active ones, will do everything they can to avoid doing anything in the game client. The dependency on third-party platforms to suck any uncertainty or joy from just logging in and doing things in the game is absolutely mystifying. A sorry state of affairs that isn’t going anywhere.
Are you thinking about wormholes/Pochven, where chatting in local reveals your presence in the system? I don’t think I’ve ever seen people telling me not to chat in local. I keep the chatty part hidden because there’s never anything good though, mostly just spam and scams.
I’ve seen guys chat in Jita local (I don’t mean the spam). It sure doesn’t happen that often, but it happens. And in other systems as well. Just a while ago I happened to be in what appeared to be a mining system for some group and when I went in there they asked me if I was a miner and needed boosts. Never seen those guys before, they were out with their Orca and barges and offered to boost me in case i wanted to mine.
I don’t know, I don’t have the same experience as the original poster. And no, I don’t really pay attention to local in high sec most of the time. But if you want a conversation try more than just a wave next time. Nobody knows who you’re waving to. Next time ask how everybody’s doing. Or talk about how you’re on for the first time in a long while and how you like the new ship models. Give people something to respond to.
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When I was new I’ve got a Gnosis from an ice miner I’ve stumbled upon and started talking with in local. Then used it to run event sites and make a fortune like two weeks later.
All this simply because I bothered to talk in local and the ice miner did too. You just have to actually engage in a polite conversation and in case there is nobody in a talking mood then not get grumpy about it, sometimes things are just chill like that not always in the mood to talk.
Also funfact: I was mostly flying a catalyst during this time and another miner got angry as he thought I am a ganker.
Sounds like something a grumpa would say between two “get off my lawn” moments.
There’s never too early or too late, just too stuck in ways to socialize and get on with the times. EVE is about adapting. People old and new still have their fun, maybe because they are not acting as hermits in an MMO hiding in a hole.
Depends on many factors, time of day, day of the week, planetary alignment, and topic. I have filters set to kill those automated spammers. I block the bots. All I hear is human chat. I would like to see more casual talk in Jita, but most of the time we dock, we sell, we buy, we leave… very typical of players in any market hub.
I agree they should pay me to talk. This mmo has no ‘server general chat’. Kind of pointless to carry on a conversation in local when it ends as soon as you leave the system. @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras ISD circumvents any kind of frivolous chat, I am aware this prevents the PvPers from becoming too friendly with each other. Next thing you know everyone is hugging, holding hands, and singing.
I would suggest you make an open public chat channel. However most of the players are very paranoid you are selling them something or scamming them. The group chat in Black Desert is completely unfiltered, but I like it uncensored. You can even buy shouts ( aka global broadcasts ) in that game, sending one message across all servers. CCP is missing yet another money maker.
Best of luck in all your endevors, welcome back, and have fun!
This is just nonsense. I’m regularly lurking right outside Jita and one of the big distractions from suspect hunting is the endless splurge of conversation and chatter in local…which I often take part in. And, of course, if you never spend any time at the undock then you wont either notice the countless interactions where there’s no words but people know just exactly what others are thinking…like when myself and another lurker try to annoy each other with orbiting or bumping, etc.
It doesn’t surprise me that someone sitting in dock in Jita for the first time in years fails to notice any of this. Or that you’ve failed to notice that 90% of the chat ‘content’ at Jita used to be just spam which people can now eliminate via a spam filter CCP added.
