yes the area i was in Vay, has serpentis belt rats, this time was gurutas and they were mining, i had never seen this before, they came towards me and i sent my drones to kill them, soon after i got a bunch of gurutas coming on top of me and i cold not warp out, they killed my skiff.
I learned later that these gurutas are diamond type rats that are taking over the area.
I did go back to kill them in a BC and killed 4 before the run away, while i was salvagind 17 gurutas cruisers popped up were i previously was and gave me time to get out of there.
I moved my stuff 4 jumps away, but I did not see them come in in the d-scan at the time, i have learned since to monitor d-scan and overview
Live and learn i guess, this game has a lot to learn and the 2 months i have been playing are only now scratching the surface of it, but that is good fun (if you dont mind loosing ships to lack of knowledge.
Still it is a fun game and i thank all of you for helping me understand this game mechanics better