[IDEA] Name Change Certificate

No, they made up their minds years ago and are regurgitating the same old ■■■■■■■■.

Closed minds are like closed parachutes.

Back in days when I was F1 monkey I wanted to change my nickname. Alphabet broadcasts :slight_smile:

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When no-one has presented a new argument in this thread, why is this an issue?
It’s an age old argument, we know both sides of it, and we still have our opinions on which side we come down. To change minds you need new information, lack of change is not indication of a closed mind.

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Personally, I would not mind having the opportunity to change this characters name. I bought it as a new player back in 2009, and though it only had the core skills trained when i bought it, it was several months better trained than the character I originally started with. The name at the time, wasn’t something I worried about, but have since come to wish to better personalize my character to ME, rather than to what someone else had made. And factually, most of the arguments against name changes are really irrelevant.

  1. You CAN get your social security number changed, by social security. I’ve done it. But you have to have a compelling reason as to why before they will do so.

  2. You can legally change your name in life, with just a few hoops to jump through… but your old name still persists with you as a legal record that can be accessed by authority.

3.You can change the look of yourself, and your character, in real life and in game. Just look at some of the more um… wild looks, plastic surgery addicted people end up with, compared to what they looked like before.

  1. If changing your name in game doesn’t effect standings, watchlist, etc, then an argument against is moot. I have Goonswarm on watchlist, every member of Goonswarm shows up to me in local as favorable player accordingly. If I have player X with negative standings, then regardless if player X changes their names, that negative standing will remain, and if I see them in a system, I am alerted to them and will act accordingly

  2. A possible option would be to allow players who buy a character, to change the name of the character (I can already hear the squeels).

  3. Other games allow player name changes, and it doesn’t effect gameplay.

Personally, Having the chance to change this characters name would be nice. Sure it’s grown on me since I bought it in 2009, kinda like mold, I’d still like to put my own personal stamp on the nameplate. BUT… the reality is, name changes in EVE will likely never happen, not that the arguments against them are really valid, but because ccp would have to do some not so light code changes that would probably break a bunch of other things.

So, while I am for limited (or once in a lifetime) name changes. I’m pretty sure I’ll have this name to the day I die cause I can’t see CCP implementing such a thing in the next year or so.

~E

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I’m not working with CCP, and i’m not aware of the real impacts of such a possible change.
But as far as i know about Characters, and from the mecanics of ESI that i got, characters are basically only IDs with a display name.
It shouldn’t be that hard to change the display name of that ID.

The problem(s) i see is more likely to be :

  • How do i keep track of available names
  • How do i avoid 2 players trying to change their character name at the same time ending up with the same
  • If player A was named ‘John Doe’, and changed for ‘James Boon’, can player B change his name for ‘John Doe’ now that it is “available” and if yes, at which point ?

When you tell people that changing a display name has no relations at all far or close from “erasing a reputation” or “escaping consequences” or “wiping history”, and they stand still on their “principle”.

It is indeed being close minded.

I don’t mind people against the idea.
I mind people being against it, just, … “because reputation”.

Can you imagine the F1 meta when everyone has changed their name to start with a Z, when fcs start broadcasting the alphabet backwards to mess with all those players with changed names? :rofl:

Entire alliances of characters would change names to fit the meta.

And then they would feel dumb as it is a lifetime use only and “meta” (if ever calling names as an fc is a “meta”…) switches back…

Then you have expressed your opinion but provided no new information to back that opinion up. If I tell you the moon is made of cheese it does not make the moon made of cheese just because I told you.

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Well, the issue is right there.
This is not an “opinion”.
It is a fact.

Among human beings there are as much as name for objects as there are languages.
That doesn’t change the object itself.

But most importantly, it is a technical fact as well.
A toon you sell on the market changes the human being behind the screen owning it (the player).
A toon you erase to strip its skill points and re-inject those in another fresh new toon does not exist anymore.

Though.
Changing the name of a toon does not change the player behind the screen, and it still exists…

Fact.
Nothing less, nothing more.

you’ve made it known time and time again why you are so for this…
others have made it known why they are against it (plus thats why i asked two highly reputable CSM’s their opinion on this as well)

You asked how others feel about it, even though you really don’t give a damn what anyone thinks… your way is the highway fine.

say CCP does implement a name change, IF they do, I would much prefer the name change to go as

Current name:
Geo Eclipse Oksaras

New name:
GEO ‘aka’ Geo Eclipse Oksaras

or like, the wanted banner
alias: Geo Eclipse Oksaras

I find OPs original proposal good, but instead of 1 life time name change… I would allow it once every 16 years.