I think he (Karak Terrell) wants something that proves what YOU (Lucas Kell) is claiming.
What? Man, you have some serious reality perception issues…
Into how many threads have I “jumped” out of how many out there? I bet it’s not even close to 10%…
And who have I insulted?
No, there isn’t… Other than that pesky comment from the ISD that removed it or the OP not having been punished for making false claims about what CCP told her…
But hey, good thing we do have evidence that it’s all fake, eh?
Oh no, it’s your word that we’re going to take…
And of course, this isn’t fake, but you’re not going to provide any evidence of this, are you? Actually, you don’t really care whether there is any evidence of this, do you?
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You understand perfectly well what I asked. But it’s a nice demonstration of how completely dishonest you are when writing here.
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I really feel that somebody that demands proof also should provide it for the things he put on the table, you can start here
and I’ve seen a few enforcements for ganking in the same way.
And no the Mittens ban is not accurate in this case.
Ahhh… So it’s not that I jump into every thread with insults like you said in your previous post… It’s that, in those threads where you’ve seen me, I have an attitude that you happen to not like… OK, got it… That’s better and makes sense now… Only, that’s relevant to the issue at hand how exactly?
You don’t get it, do you? You don’t see how the OP wouldn’t have been able to get away unscathed from this with a mere ISD edit if what she’s claiming was fake, do you?
Not sure why would you say this… Did I somehow give you the impression that I think it’s me who you expect to believe anything you’re saying?
Yes, we already knew how easy it is for you to consider “proven” the things you want to believe and disregard as “fake” the ones you don’t. Nothing new here.
And now, after reading this, you may be even more certain how right you are… As if anyone cares whether you think you’re right or not…
This is the old thread in question, which the OP mentioned in his post as well:
https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/199310/
Now, first off, that’s no evidence whatsoever that anyone was ever banned for that. It just states what CCP’s policy about the issue was at the time, back in 2013, and about the particular case of bumping only…
But the whole point of the OP’s post about this was to clarify that this is no longer CCP’s stance on the issue, which a GM stated in that very thread several years ago already… So you using that as evidence of anything to try to “prove” your point, or that the OP’s claim about the response she got from a GM is fake, is ■■■■■■■■…
Yes. Exactly. That’s the only thing you’ve said so far that’s correct.
Only this thread isn’t about what someone that feels being harassed should do. It’s about whether how much someone should care that he may be banned just because someone else feels harassed by him. And you pretending he should refrain from repeated targeting or from following his target around, for fear of being banned, is ■■■■■■■■ too…
I’m not I wanted you to tell me the names, I’m not trying to “forum war” I was honestly curious who this person/persons would be. I know about the permabanned heroes if Code. And a lot more people being banned for this and that but never anybody for ganking outside newbies corner.
I don’t need to branch out, I know most of the “creative” people that have blessed New Eden.
However, I do need to try and get information about this ghost gankers that have passed away unnoticed. *Kicks my house miner and tells him to get my Sherlock hat and magnifying glass
Except it’s not. You repeating this lie doesn’t make it true, no matter how many times you repeat it.
I haven’t said nor implied otherwise. I do laugh at you, however, if you think someone might post the info the OP did and get away unscathed if it was fake.
What implication? I didn’t make any implication in the paragraph you replied to saying that… But regardless, you keep talking about you “knowing” this or that as if you expected anyone reading this to take your word for it, so whatever you meant is irrelevant anyway…
LOL. Where have I said anything to the contrary? What makes you think there is anything about this that I don’t understand? And how is this relevant to whether the OP’s claim about the GM response she got is fake or not?
And this contradicts what I said in the paragraph you were replying to exactly how? That was exactly my point, that this thread is about whether the supposed offender might get banned or not, not about what to do if someone feels being harassed…
Except the OP provided a much more concrete answer to that question which you’re trying to dismiss as fake just because you happen to disagree with it, which is the whole point of the discussion we’re having…
But let’s see what it is that you keep talking about that “proves” the OP’s claim is fake:
https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/
Precisely the fact that this is explicitly forbidden in the ToS/EULA is what sets it apart from other things that the game mechanics provide the opportunity to do and which are not explicitly forbidden… You cannot use something that’s explicitly forbidden as proof that doing something that’s not explicitly forbidden might get you banned…
This is what the OP claims the GM said and you pretend cannot be true:
because the opportunity to do so is built in the game mechanics
What if what he meant was something like this and he simply omitted the last part because it’s obvious to anyone able/willing to understand?
because the opportunity to do so is built in the game mechanics and not expressly forbidden by the ToS/EULA
So that is what you’re using as “proof” that the OP’s claim about the GM response she got is fake? The fact that maybe the GM omitted the last part of that sentence? Really?
No, you don’t get it. It’s that you need to ignore the things that prove you wrong so you may keep believing you’re right…
ROFL. Except this is something everybody agrees with, not what was being discussed at all, and not what you said yourself the thread is about. But I totally understand you feel the need to be right about something, even if it’s not what was being discussed…
its a great way to make people quit the game thats for sure. but they can just move away while your not on. get some friends to back them up. they are not after all totally helpless.
That was my first sentiment when I read it, (only because of the surprise, not disappointed at all, just happy to know it tbf because thats how eveonline should be), and I feel like CCP wants to make eveonline become EveOnline once again… and not just eve… if u know what I mean (which is great)
Id screenshot the GM reply and post it in here if I was allowed without a problem, its a very well structured and extensive reply, it would be good for everyone and there is nothing wrong with it tbh, just solid and clear explanation on the current CCP stance around stuff like this.
Wow. What a load of bull**** from someone who knows nothing about the subject.
There is no such thing as getting banned for ganking too much. Loyalanon got banned for saying things that violate the EULA, otherwise known as being an idiot.
I have personally ganked the same guy 9 times in a row (personal record), though it was in the same system every time. The TOS only warns against continued harassment AFTER the target has made an effort to get away from you by leaving system/region.
I have also targeted individuals and told them that they have to leave Highsec, and it worked, they live in nullsec, last time I checked. I proved to them that I was willing to travel across Highsec to gank their covetor, good times.
This is all, of course, handled on a case-by-case basis, but there is NO limit on legitimate ganking, as long as you’re not following around individuals, you’re fine.
For proof, just refer to the killboard of the good people of the New Order of Highsec, namely members of the CODE. Alliance. Pages and pages of dead carebears, trillions of ISK destroyed, all 100% allowed.
I personally kill retrievers in Arnon, which is a system under special protection for new players. All that means is that I have to check to make sure that my target is not under 30 days old before blasting them, but on day 31 I am rolling in hot!
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See, even the biggest carebears in the game agree with me!
If anyone is, you are definitely a carebear, sir.
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Carebears calling carebears carebears like that word has any meaning left due to it’s massive overuse and misuse in this forum.
Calling people carebear in this forum is as relevant as telling all the people that have never played WOW to go back to WOW.
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Funny how only carebears seem to be confused about the definition of the word carebear or think the word lacks meaning.
Lucas, your posting history clearly demonstrates that you’re the worst kind of carebear and have been for years, what does denying it do for you now, at this point?
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Code is carebears. Not so hard to define.
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Oh great! So now carebears are the same as the players who dedicate themselves to their eradication. Got it. Very helpful. Thanks for your contribution.
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