I stick by my statement that the fact you can’t see outside a station before you undock is silly and the only reason it is not in EvE is it requires effort they don’t want to put in. You are telling me wherever this universe is they dont have ring? comon
Watching outside of a station from within is the only good suggestion in this thread.
It already exists for player structures and helps a lot for lower end machines to reduce the load times while undocking and also reduces the strain on the PC while docked.
It would be a nice addition if we could also see outside of NPC stations.
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If you can do a ‘view outside’ on upwell citadels and it is considered useful there, there is little that speaks against having that feature on NPCstations as well. Good solutions shall find ways to more areas of the game. Its up to the players if and how they want to make use of it.
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Oh gawd…why are these sort of threads always so predicable ? Person makes claim…and then spends 478 posts denying they made it, or re-inventing the meaning of words, to weasel out of it.
This is precisely why arguing with people like you is tiresome. You made a definitive assertion, and then when caught up in the tangled web of your own words you pretend you didn’t.
It’s basically just trolling.
Citation needed that ccp doesnt realize that ganking affects retention?
Pretty sure their numbers and reachout to players would tell them what is hurting retention. Its not ganking. I would say toxic players affect new players
Ganking has been a thing for 21 years now. Read that again, as many times as necessary. 21 years. If ganking was the problem, EVE would have shut down over a decade ago.
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IT doesn’T really because you do not see brackets with View Outside. All you see is space and not what’s going on.
I love how they think being able to look outside a station is going to save them…
The OP and I have two different reasons to have a View Outside button in stations.
I like the View Outside button in structures because it helps older machines to instantly load the graphics when you undock, because you have already loaded all textures, instead of having a black screen for long.
I also like the View Outside button because it allows older machines to use the much less straining outside view of space instead of the new overly detailed structure interiors that make older machines suffer.
In other words, View Outside allows a wider range of computers to play EVE, like my previous PC. And this works fine for structures, so I would like to also have that button for stations.
The thing that doesn’t work with View Outside is that you do not see the brackets and thus cannot tell enemy ships from friendly ships while inside like the OP wants, because all you can see is the ship textures without all of the UI elements that tell you which group those ships belong to.
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Except I did not.
You made up that claim.
Indeed, you are.
When first Jita undocking took 20s, it would have indeed saved people.
Why and how oO ? You are still invul and in docking range … and after this just use the warpout and youre still safe !
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The main benefit are undenyable client performance improvements and even energy/heat/pollution savings, for some people already more than enough reason to use this feature. Can’t find a single reason why that should be a bad thing, when all it takes is the implementation of a button that already works on other stations quite well.
The ‘tactical’ benefits aren’t that great, but they don’t have to be to make it a useful suggestion. They aren’t completely useless either.
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You are only invulnerabe for 30 seconds.
If your screen is unresponsive and black for a minute upon undocking you cannot dock back up or warp out to be safe.
Yes, that requently was an issue on my previous PC.
Don’t feed the troll.
Just because he’s wrong here doesn’t mean he’s a troll though.
I know youre 30 sec invul but i dont think the first ubdock need more then 30s … maybe on some individual cases but they are not represented for everyone !
But yes, if it takes more time then you could be fu…ed but who cares ? If you got ganked its your own fault !
Be happy that most ppl answer trolls ! Otherwise nobody would answer you 
Because he claims to know Eve while he does not even know of such a trivial thing.
Being persistent in being wrong is what makes a troll of it.
Quote me where i claim anything xD you write about 20s … 20s is still within invul timer and then youre pretty safe ! Maybe you didnt know enough about eve ?
My previous PC doesn’t care what you think, it sometimes took longer than 30 seconds to undock.
While there are workarounds such as ‘potato mode graphics’ and ‘undocking in something cheap first to load textures’, CCP can easily make EVE more accessible to more PCs if they add a ‘view outside’ button to stations too.
It’s in CCP’s own interests to have more potential players and to have more players that can play with higher than potato graphics, because no one will care about ship skins if you cannot even see them.
So to answer your “who cares?” question:
CCP should care, and players with older machines do too.
What is the sec level loss for a player with -10 sec status?