InstaWarp vs. InstaLock


(Tiddle Jr) #1

Was trying to help an Alpha guy who was curious about how to escape either it’s possible or not in ceptor vs. null sec gate camp. So question is how do actually locking + tracking +(flight time of the ammo and here I’m kinda confused if there are any flight time should be counted for projectiles and hybrids). So his align and warp is 2.1 sec.


(Tipa Riot) #2

Not sure what you want to know + prove, but a couple of things. Guns apply their damage instant when activated, flight time is only relevant for launchers. How is this related to gate camps? The point of a camp is to warp disrupt the target before it can warp. The magic number here is 2s align time, because of the tick mechanic. With 2.1s align you are in warp after 3s … or not, because you are dead in any competent camp. If you can manage to be in warp within 2s, you can only be caught in exceptional cases. Finally, Alphas and ceptors?


(Tiddle Jr) #3

Yeah sorry, called him Alpha but meant to be a greenhorn. He is flying Maeldiciton https://zkillboard.com/character/2112306259/losses/ and keep dying in null. So kinda trying to catch both monkies.


(Tipa Riot) #4

Sub 2s align, and he should be fine. However dying to another solo ceptor or other explorers is another beast. Always keep an eye on the overview, highlight a warp out before you start hacking, color other player ships … so as soon as your “signal color” pops up, click warp.

EDIT: … and never fit an AB, but use MWDs, you want to be fast in case. For example if you are landing outside docking range, 1s of MWD safes you, crashing the gate is another example, and not to mention flying between cans in a hacking site.


(Tiddle Jr) #5

thx, i’ll try to address that points to the guy :slight_smile:


(elitatwo) #6

Malediction - travel

mid slot:
medium azethropic warp shield extender 2x
em warp field II

low slot:
damage control 2
3x inertia stabilizers

rigs:
2x low friction nozzle joints 2

Align time should be 1.88s and this should even hold if you run into a smartbomb camp.


(Tiddle Jr) #7

yeah but he wants to do relic or data sites :thinking:


(elitatwo) #8

Then he should fly an Astero or bring a depot with relic analyzer.


(Tiddle Jr) #9

you knew if there is a built with < than 1s align time?


(elitatwo) #10

No ship in EVE can do below 1 second. There was a thread in the old forums with an article about align times, insta-locks and server ticks.
Everything that warps sub 2s should be fine unless the insta-locker lives in London and has an internet ping of sub 5ms.


(Anderson Geten) #11

yes there is a ship that warps sub 1s.
Its name starts with “hec-” and finished with “-ate”.

You need an implant though.


(elitatwo) #12

The question was about a Malediction.

However I could get a Jackdaw to 1.22s.


(Tiddle Jr) #13

yeah kind of crazy build u prob never undock and fly but still it’s exist, check the stats lol i can’t belive it

[Hecate, Hecate fit]

Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
IFFA Compact Damage Control

Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II
Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II

Low-grade Nomad Alpha
Low-grade Nomad Beta
Low-grade Nomad Gamma
Mid-grade Nomad Delta
Low-grade Nomad Epsilon
Mid-grade Nomad Omega
Eifyr and Co. ‘Rogue’ Evasive Maneuvering EM-706


(Tiddle Jr) #14

not just Malediction any dicition :slight_smile:


(Anderson Geten) #15

your answer was not :


(Tipa Riot) #16

I’m using this one, relic optimized, instawarp with max skills, no imps, not smartbomb-proof:

[Ares, Tipa Riot’s Ares]
Damage Control II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Relic Analyzer II
Scan Rangefinding Array II

Core Probe Launcher II
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Salvager I

Small Emission Scope Sharpener II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II


(elitatwo) #17

In that order.


(Tiddle Jr) #18

too much of meee…


(Zhilia Mann) #19

You don’t need the nomads on that fit at all. Even without, and downgrading to an EM-705, you get 0.985.

It’s still not how I’d do it; those rigs aren’t buying you much. Try this:

[Hecate, courier]

Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II

Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Requires EM-705. Aligns in 0.996. Warps at 7.82 AU/s. Cheaper.

If you’re going to make a super courier you might as well do it right.


(elitatwo) #20

Since this is not interdictor nullified, it is an example doomed to fail its purpose.