Introducing Exordium!

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Malak_Starfire

@DeMichael_Crimson

Dude, I’ve had enough of your stupid BS replies… My statement has nothing to do with ganking… Now pull your head out of your arse so you’ll know what I’m talking about..

Oh so you weren’t commenting on a line of discussion that started with?

@Shion_Ishii

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but perhaps you might want to install tethers on the gates leading into Exordium. I flew over there and there was a fleet of tornados parked at the Yulai gate to Manifest.

If the goal is to help with new player retention I do not think said new players completing all the agents and then leaving in haulers with all their stuff just to get it all obliterated by the usual suspects is going to help with that.

Otherwise why would you even care that Yulai/Manifest is the only reliable way in and out of the region? Did you notice how everyone else is also talking about ganking?

No I wasn’t and that’s not even the poster I was replying to… So yeah, that right there proves my point that you have your head stuck so far up that you don’t even know who or what I was replying to… Ironically due to spite you immediately assume it was about ganking…

FYI, this was the convo:

@DeMichael_Crimson

@Eaglefeather

Yulai doesn’t matter for the new players, since there’s four different one way exits out of Exordium to their respective faction space.

If you had actually read the thread, you would have seen that @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras posted this earlier:

CCP Fozzie : One other thing I’ll note because I realize it’s not mentioned in the blog: the shipcasters from this space can only be used once per character (they’re intended as one-time-use shortcuts) to limit power projection issues

@Eaglefeather

Yes, one time use. No reason a new player should need more than one use once done with the tutorial.

@DeMichael_Crimson

Completing 1 set of 5 Career Agents gives the player about 8 different ships…

Having the shipcasters be a one time use means they’ll have to do a lot of jumps back and forth through Yulai just to move their ships to a new location in their chosen Factions space…

@Anna_Dyneaux

The total value of all their starter ships is like three million, and most of that is the industrial which can bring along two of their frigates no problem.

@DeMichael_Crimson

Doesn’t matter how much they’re worth, I’m talking about the logistics of moving their stuff and the amount of trips required to do it…

You guys need to start looking at it from the view of an inexperienced brand new player… Those ships will mean a lot to them and they’ll want to take everything with them when they leave the starter region…

Course you then jumped in at the end and without even looking at the convo, assumed I was talking about new players possibly getting ganked in Yulai and decided to post your stupid comment in an attempt to portray me as crying about it…

And now that everything is straightened out, get this through your thick head, I have no inclination whatsoever to conduct discourse with you… Now stop shadowing and pestering me with your BS replies..

[Gerard_Amatin]

@DeMichael_Crimson

Funny how it’s always ‘High Sec’ that has to be the Guinea pig for new NPC terror content… Even though Null Sec is the richest area in Eve with unlimited resources and complex Fleet doctrines to efficiently deal with it, they rarely ever get the NPC gauntlet thrown at them…

Is it?

I am aware my experience is biased because of living in null sec, but I recall null having diamond rats from NPC Sotiyos added that randomly spawn and attack people (including our structures!).
I recall random metaliminal storms being added just to null that can disable the cloaks of our ships, which can easily get unprepared players killed. It also is rather dangerous if it coincides with a Sansha incursion and it’s tackle frigates at the gate your no longer cloaked ship is at.

Is it true that all of the dangerous new NPC mechanics are added to HS only, or might your observations also have a bias, just like mine, caused by your own experience of flying mostly in HS?

[DeMichael_Crimson]

Next time read the entire post instead of cherry picking a section of it in an attempt to portray it out of context…

By the way, here’s the rest of it that you so conveniently ignored:

@DeMichael_Crimson

And the one time it did happen during Black Out with the roaming Drifter gangs attacking them, all of the Null Sec Alliance leaders cried about it and within weeks CCP removed that content…

So yeah, stop misrepresenting what people post and take your bias prejudice attitude somewhere else…

[Lucy_Alfrir]

@DeMichael_Crimson

@DeMichael_Crimson

And the one time it did happen during Black Out with the roaming Drifter gangs attacking them, all of the Null Sec Alliance leaders cried about it and within weeks CCP removed that content…

So yeah, stop misrepresenting what people post and take your bias prejudice attitude somewhere else…

I’m not a nullbear but AIUI Blackout was a few weeks where they were hunting for botters, hence why it only lasted a few weeks.

So yeah, stop misrepresenting what happened in game and take your bias prejudice attitude somewhere else…

[DeMichael_Crimson]

I was talking about the Drifter attacks that were happening during the Blackout event so STFU and take your BS bias prejudice replies somewhere else…

[Lucy_Alfrir]

The event which was planned for a few weeks to catch botters?

[DeMichael_Crimson]

Yeah right, NPC Drifter gangs roaming around attacking Null Sec Alliance structures was CCP’s plan to catch botters…

Do you have an Official statement from CCP saying that?

[Lucy_Alfrir]

2019/09/16 – Nullsec Blackout Concludes! | EVE Online

[Vortigern_Vitalis]

Not a single mention of Drifters in there. Nor does it state that the purpose was to identify bots; it simply says that it gave them insight into player behaviour, including those suspected of using bots. Not the same thing as “catching bots”, and certainly not given as the primary motive.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

Nice try but that doesn’t say anything about the roaming Drifter gangs…

[Lucy_Alfrir]

Well no, but it was all part of the same expansion, no?

You got any evidence to back up your claims that is was nullbear tears which got them removed?

[Velskar_Revtes]

I honestly think the biggest snowflakes and complainers on EVE are null players.

WHers just get ■■■■ on and they need some nice things sometimes.

[Malak_Starfire]

@DeMichael_Crimson

FYI, this was the convo:

@DeMichael_Crimson

@Eaglefeather

Yulai doesn’t matter for the new players, since there’s four different one way exits out of Exordium to their respective faction space.

Did you see the post they responded to? The post I had quoted for you? The whole reason why Yulai came up were the tornados ganking the gate (who were likely trying to get any AT ships going in is my guess).

[Power_Armor]

@Eaglefeather

Yes, one time use. No reason a new player should need more than one use once done with the tutorial.

Why is the jump from Manifest to Yulai considered to be a shipcaster? Is it supposed to be used only once and never get out again?

[Christine_Creed]

@Power_Armor

Why is the jump from Manifest to Yulai considered to be a shipcaster? Is it supposed to be used only once and never get out again?

Im going to guess that its like this temporarily until June 9th. The fact that they invited us in there pre-release doesnt constitute anything you see now as permanent.

I only explored in there for a bit, and i didnt see any other additional shipcasters anywhere.

Did anyone see any other shipcasters?

[Gerard_Amatin]

@Power_Armor

Why is the jump from Manifest to Yulai considered to be a shipcaster? Is it supposed to be used only once and never get out again?

Yea that message seems wrong at that gate.

There should be a specific message for using the gate to Yulai, one that does not mention the line about shipcasters or faction territory.

[Arthur_Aihaken]

They should have a Shipcaster in each region in Exordium that jumps players to a random 0.9 system in each Empire (one time exit).

I know the gatecampers and gankers will cry foul, but f*ck 'em.

[Malak_Starfire]

@Arthur_Aihaken

They should have a Shipcaster in each region in Exordium that jumps players to a random 0.9 system in each Empire (one time exit).

So only one shipcaster total? And have it not lead to the FW HQ, which is the design of where they are going to point new capsuleers? Such last minute switching is bound to cause confusion…

[Christine_Creed]

@Malak_Starfire

So only one shipcaster total? And have it not lead to the FW HQ, which is the design of where they are going to point new capsuleers? Such last minute switching is bound to cause confusion…

So i posted my theory above Gerard…but i guess panic has once again set in.

Im pretty confident that this isnt permanent. They invited us in all willy nilly and just perhaps the gate labeled the way it is may be a preview of what youll see when the actual four shipcasters are there.

Its all just theory on my part. if it stays like that then thats a 180 from what we were all told weeks ago.

[Malak_Starfire]

@Christine_Creed

So i posted my theory above Gerard…but i guess panic has once again set in.

Im pretty confident that this isnt permanent. They invited us in all willy nilly and just perhaps the gate labeled the way it is may be a preview of what youll see when the actual four shipcasters are there.

Oh I know, I’m just poking at Arthur saying that there should be in a shipcaster in each region of the region of Exordium and how those are tied to the Epic arc that hands players off to FW and how his suggestion makes no sense at all.

The Manifest-Yulai gate warning is a bit off, but it’s to be expected and will be addressed after all the other bugs are addressed.