Introducing the HyperNet Relay

Context, Arrendis. Context. We were talking about the impact on PLEX PRICES.

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How about you learn to write instead of projecting your stupidity on others ?

Just because you don’t see it, does not mean it’s not obvious.

What’s also obvious is that you answered in an aggressive tone for no reason, while my answer was totally on point with what you made me understand of your question - and civile.

And in-context, yes, extractors/injectors had a significant impact in buoying the price of PLEX. Remove them, and PLEX crashes.

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I would ask people to bet over/under for when CCP will implement ingame casinos but that would get me banned.

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I’m still actually confused. Like skill injectors, the hypercores can be purchased “from the New Eden Store or from the regional market.” Based on the article, it doesn’t sound like any actually money is required, although the option exists?

Am I wrong here? Someone tell me!

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So…gambling? And cash-shop-paid gambling, at that. Because fixing the game doesn’t turn a profit enough anymore…

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Anyone actually tryied it on SISI or we are just shiting on everyone because someone thinks how it works?

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still in VIP

just like plex, hypercores are purchased from CCP and sold on the trade market ig.
At which point, I see no reason to not use plex.

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Here’s the thing - the reason they have an impact is because they’re sought after and used. You already argued, and I think made a good point, that these aren’t going to be used that much because of the way the system is set up. If that’s the case, the impact should be minimal.

But hey, I’d love to be wrong.

As for the rest, the reason those guys got banned was because they were RMTing what they were making. This is run by the company, and they get their cut, which makes it fine. I’m all for new revenue streams for EVE, as we all should be. It makes it more likely the game survives long term, and that’s what we all want, right?

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Like PLEX, they can be bought from the NES for real money. OR…
Like PLEX, they can be bought from the Regional Market for ISK. BUT…

Where did those Hypercores on the Regional Market come from?

Well, like PLEX… someone else bought them. This time, they bought them on the NES, for PLEX… which, as we all know, ultimately comes from real money. Which means, even though there’s another layer of obfuscation muddying the waters here, these, like most SKINs, all ultimately require real money to go into CCP’s account at some point in the chain.

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Your comment at Brisc wasn’t related to the discussion that was being had at the moment…although it does still have merit.

To be clear, he wasn’t talking about the impact skill injectors had on the game. He was talking about how, in principle, these cores are no different from any other item available on the New Eden store. It doesn’t take anything away. This is gambling with ISK. Not real money. It just adds new possibilities without making players pay real money.

The person HOSTING the sale may have to pay, yes - but this is no different from money doubling in Jita, or any other stupid scam that MAKES Eve, Eve! This just has the odds laid out clearly in front of you and your spend clearly given. The risk/reward ratio is clear, communicated to the player, and they don’t have to pay anything other than in-game cash to participate.

I don’t think anyone that doesn’t already buy PLEX is going to start buying PLEX to feed a habit of gambling away money they work VERY hard for in-game. That money is worth too much for that lol. IDK, maybe I have too much faith in the players. Eve is notoriously difficult and takes self-control with ISK to do well.

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Hey Brisc what your opinion about skill extractor indexed on the plex value ?

i think Skill injec would be better without that (cheaper injector/extract and plex)

and don’t you think they gonna make the same mistake with this gambling thing ?

But it is. RNG dictated “gambling” on a box. The only difference is the box has set contents and everyone gets something. To the individual this seems very similar to a loot box.

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Not sure what the benefit of that would be - like plex and MCTs (and skins for that matter), the in-game price in isk is going to fluctuate based on demand as well as the value of plex in isk. So indexing it just ties the two when they’re already basically tied.

We will see if this turns out badly. I’m still not 100% sure how this is going to work, based in the dev blog. Guess I will have to check it in sisi with everybody else.

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Plenty of people got hooked on somer blink and funded their habit by buying plexes to sell on the market. CCP knows this because they have analysis tool.

The gambling mechanic is here to encourage this behaviour. CCP will make money 2 ways:

  1. degens will buy plexes to pay for their gambling habit
  2. sales of hypercores

Would be cool if it was just an isk sink, but you need to buy nodes with plex for $? Unreal … with all the crying about lack of time to finish content and you focus on this.

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Guys, seriously, you’re freaking out a little bit early here. This isn’t CCP locking game content behind gambleboxes.

They’re allowing players to participate in in-game raffles. Raffles are part of real life, your local church probably runs them. This is players deciding they want to offer an item as part of a raffle, and other players making the choice to buy into that or not. It’s certainly not more of a ‘gamble’ than undocking in a “PvP anywhere” sandbox, just set up a different way.

CCP desperately needs to expand their cash shop items - subs and the current options for spending Plex just aren’t enough anymore. Especially with only a fraction of their old player base, and that declining.

RNG / raffle / gambling options are, agreed, the low-hanging fruit of expanding the cash shop. They could have many more options but those would likely require quality game design, good programming, and a decent understanding of the player base. Things CCP are in short supply of.

Until CCP manages to up their game, low-hanging fruit is what you’re gonna get. If you don’t like the options they provide, just don’t use them.

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Not really. Somer Blink was laundering ISK and turning it into real world currency. CCP is asking for cash up front to start the process.

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I made you drop reading the post halfway through?

which part of

You failed to understand?

Yeah sure I’ve made you understand that I’ve meant to ask about cores which are for setting up raffles.
Thats why I have specifically said I mean the raffle tickets. Sure.

applies now double - because not only you have cut the sentence from the post in half but also apparently only have read half of my own sentence you were answering.

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