Enough to spin off several games at the same time though!
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But suck the $$$ from the content of this game for others? 
And now you are exiting the scope of the post. EVE Online by itself is making CCP enough profit to begin the development of several games all at once. We aren’t here to discuss the business of CCP as a whole, but whether the game EVE Online is ‘dead’.
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EVE Online can be better, and may have made decisions that are not popular, but it is far from dead.
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Actually it’s quite easy, because the ‘twice the number’ is really just short spurts and its not hard to equally find lows of 42K, 44K, etc in the same time frame. There was never any sustained period when even 50K was exceeded, with just a single year ( 2013 ) being the closest it comes to that. I think 1.5 times the figures now would be more accurate…for 2009 to 2014.
Also, concurrency is really no guide to how many active players there are. You could achieve the 2009 to 2014 figures with the exact same number of active players simply logging in for 1.5 times longer. In fact the length of time people log in each day is probably the major determining factor for concurrency…which means notions of there being twice as many actual players are somewhat misleading.
Its dead in spirit. Pay or play all you want. I’m glad at least you’re enjoying the game.
I do have one question, and you have to look at yourself to answer and ask yourself did the game ever make a cold chill run up your spine?
Shame if it didn’t. I come from a time in the game where mistakes could not be replaced with a CC. Lessons were learned the hard way.
And still stands true today. I’ll give you that.
But the worst part is as I try new games, the lessons learned from this game make other new games wimpy in comparison, I just breeze through them. A trend in new games it seems. Chk out the
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Is it the game that’s dead in spirit or is it you ? I don’t mean that in an insulting way, just that you’ve probably played it so long, gained so many SP and so much experience that there simply isn’t anything new you think you can do. Unless one has some crazy goal like conquering the whole of New Eden, there must come a point where one has 2 Trillion ISK and every ship imaginable and there simply isn’t anything one hasn’t already done. I can imagine this could lead to a deflated sense of any excitement over the game.
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You still did not answer my question. 
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I actually haven’t responded at all yet (it’s only been 11 minutes!), but yes I still do, and I’ve been playing since 2008.
Only recently in my case…where I learned the hard way that a laser fit can need capacitor boosters, and had to just sit there and watch in horror as my ship was destroyed. The irony being that I did not even have enough cap to run my energy neutralisers that would have saved me. The lesson of not undocking in a cap unstable ship has now been learned !
I don’t believe you for a moment! 
Any 08 player like myself should be immune to panic by this point.
Sorry that you have become numb…that’s a sign to take a break from the game and recharge at the very least.
Panic and excitement are not the same thing btw.
My most recent example was watching Tuskers in the AT get DELETED with their triple shield Domi comp by THL. Or if you want just stuff that happened to me personally, then when I race against the clock getting that second can in a Ghost site or when I see 2 Fleet Trashers outside of my plex with 10 seconds left on the plex timer…can I get the capture off in time, before hitting the boundary in my align out, or will I get alpha’d in my Algos?
You not having those feelings is a you issue. Give yourself that break, recharge, or just move on if EVE just doesn’t do it for you any more.
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More like not stupid enough to pay for the game anymore. Glad you enjoy it still.
I might just be reading from the inside out but sounds like your burnt out and need a break.
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Now there is more to Eve than kills, but given that CCPs current focus seem to be entirely on making it easier for attackers to get some kills, I think it is a fair focus. 1 kill every 6s for 22000 players, is 1 kill every 132000 seconds (~37 hours) per player.
If looking at nearly pure kill game like Call Of Duty, a 4vs4, 10m50s, 86 kill match, is 1 kill every ~8 seconds, or 1 kill every 64s (~1 minute) per player.
Now every kill involves at least 2 players (target and shooter) in both games. But more importantly, Eve fleet sizes can be vastly larger, Eve does have solo kills, and a lot of ganks is 1 target 3-10 shooters, but there are also several hundred man battles. Not sure where to put the average, if its 10 involved per kill, that is ~4 hours per kill.
In order to reach a frequency of about 1 minute, Eve engagements would need to involve an average of ~2200 players. No way that is the case.
So in a view of “Kills makes game alive” Eve is very dead.
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When it comes to Eve making money, there are the people claiming a significant amount of CCP income is Iceland Tax money. Given their president spends time opening Fanfest this does seem plausible.
Does anyone have any verifiable information on if this true and possible how much?
That’s an absurd representation of the data. Some players don’t engage in combat at all. Some engage in a lot. Personally I have across my chars 1330 kills in 3 years…which is around one every 20 hours. But I can have solo days like one day last week where I got 5 kills in one hour, or fleet battles where I’ve gotten 60 kills in an hour. I can equally go a week with no kills at all.
Comparing with Call Of Duty is silly. Eve involves a lot more caution, where you’ve got ships, stations, etc worth hundreds of millions or even billions. I doubt death in Call Of Duty would be so frequent if being killed cost £10 or £50 !
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I agree with Mindahouf Davaham that its a you issue. There’s still plenty of people ( myself included ) finding excitement in the game and that makes it ‘worth it’. I think the secret to enjoying such a game is to set oneself incredibly high goals…like one day ruling all of New Eden. Highly unlikely, but it means one will always have something to aspire to. If I simply set myself the goal of having lots of blingy ships and a lot of ISK…well I have achieved that already. So one really has to set ‘the unreachable star’ as a goal.
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When I boarded the SoE ship and joined fleet, then we warped to a safe spot but all those pirates showed up and I had to fight against a cruiser then a battleship then I died. Yes, I did feel that chill run up my spine. That’s when I knew I would play this game to the bitter end.
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EVE not dead, your brain dead.
That a fairy tale. You wanted excuse to criticize.
Try undock button.
Your nose gettin longer Pinocchio
I undock last hour and many players in space so your lies not workin
There is third option, you are full of it.
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