The biggest things I don’t like about the alpha account is that I can’t play with my mining barges, fly ships like Drake and Raven, do PI and trade without way too much taxes and fees.
If that could be achieved at a price, while still less than a full account…that’d be nice…
I guess you can call it sort of a PVE account although still some PvP could be done with that kind of account I guess…
Moved to player features & ideas.
I would really just like alphas to have ALL alpha skills. It could even be put on a timed unlock so that you are still restricted to your own race’s ships till you are out of rookie chat. Once those 30 days are up then it unlocks the rest of the alpha skills so newbros aren’t overwhelmed in the beginning.
As it stands now, there IS a best race to pick as an alpha. (hint: it starts with G)
Naah…don’t know about that…
However…it seems that in december the alpha clone avaliable skills and other will be much greater. A step in the right direction but it still doesn’t remove the need for some kind of payed “beta clone” or whatever you call it…
For example…I am not sure that the new alpha clones will have access to stuff like mining barges and PI, although they will have access to a lot more then they have now…
Mining barges and PI can be too easily abused by alpha player. I play as both alpha and omega depending on my budget and think allowing this for alphas is a bad idea.
Edit: As pointed out by Magnus Orly, I didn’t pay attention to the thread title. NM.
Thats why this thread is discussing “beta” clones 
I think this is an intriguing idea. As someone who’s played both as an Alpha and an Omega, I like the idea of something in between. There are only two problems I see:
Cost. CCP would have to find a cost that their accountants will like, which will also please the players. 250 Plex seems reasonable to me. In USD, this should equate to about $7.50 a month, which would please my wife and possibly net me a yearly subscription.
Allowances and limitations. This is trickier than cost. CCP would need to find a way to balance between high-end Alpha gear and low-end Omega gear. This could include items like the Civilian Mining Drones and perhaps one or two skill levels that are not normally available to Alphas. However, it should also exclude certain skills and/or skill levels that are normatively available only to Omegas, as Omega should still be the more desirable account status.
I am sorry that I don’t give any specifics as I don’t want to be too greedy. I like the idea and hope that this discussion continues, and perhaps some input from the developers will ensue. Will anything come of this? Maybe, maybe not. However, it is worth discussing.
Did i miss something, or are you rolling along with the troll man?
i agree with him ther shot be no Alpha ore omega accounts insted off making more alpha ore omega stoff lower your price off 15 Euros pr a moths to 10 Euros pr a month 15 Euros is too much players in eve have more then 2 accounts and the top off that stop wasting money it to dust 512 and valkyrie game you will never balance the dust 512 and valkyrie game in to the MANE hard core game EVE Online then maybe players will come back when they see the price when down
I honestly have no idea what you just said. I think you’re saying Eve is too expensive… but that can’t be right because Eve is free. Even as an omega, Eve is free.
yes 15 pr a month is to much if you run like 2-3-4 ore more accounts like i do well i did at the same time it stack up big time for a example you run 4 accounts 15e pr a month that is 60e now if the Monthly fee was 10e that is 40e and i bet there is 50-60% off players out there who have more than 2 accounts and i apologize for bad english 
No worries on the bad english, I get that it’s not everyone’s first language (or second or third in some cases, which is two or three more than I am able to converse in!) but the actual intent itself was almost completely lost on me lol.
As for the cost, I run 3 accounts - and I plex them all. In fact, those 3 accounts are what enable me to plex all 3… one by itself is not self sufficient. But the three together reach the critical mass I need to raise the 4.5b isk a month (plus a little extra to play with) that it costs to plex. When there’s a good sale on sometimes I’ll pick up a few months of game time, as it’s more cost effective than buying plex to sell for isk, but that’s just when I want to add to my liquid isk.
Plexing 4 accounts would be even easier, on account of the ability to generate an ever-accelerating amount of wealth.
At the end of the day though, CCP balances their pricing around people playing their game. If you choose to play it 4 ways at the same time, there is a cost to that, be it in time or cash.
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