Is there even a point to playing this game if wanting to do solo PvE outside of high sec?

This is so curious to me because almost anywhere you look, people will tell you to join a group, get friends, don’t try to go it alone. How have you maintained this level of obliviousness?

That said, it certainly can be played solo, in much the same way that all video games can be played on the hardest difficulty setting.

Yes agreed, and that’s the sort of useful info that helps the forums along and people to learn more about the game. And your entire reply here is the kind of rational, considered discussion you’ve shown in the past. And if I b1tch about it, it’s because TBH I personally prefer to see your rational posts and not the quickie snark-posts that are all too common on forums (any forum, not just EVE).

At any rate, thank you for the reply, and for taking the time to educate someone who’s displaying a misunderstanding of the dynamics of EVE. Good replies take longer but they’re worth it, IMO.

And yes, Stefnia was completely wrong and didn’t even take the 15 seconds to do their homework before looking silly. And you and I and every other forum frequenter knew it. (But let’s be honest, most of what Stefnia writes is wrong so that’s not exactly news.)

On that matter of ‘gank’, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Gank is a standard term in pretty much every open-PvP game. Gank is used in games where there is no PvE, essentially everything is PvP (eg, DotA 2, barring bot fights). EVE’s mechanics aren’t some super special case where 6 guys ganging up on a lone traveler is “just normal PvP”. It’s not in a world of it’s own where a T3 cruiser taking out a Heron is a “gf”.

A gank is a gank is a gank. Some players feel EVE PvP is somehow special and different from other games, but I don’t think that’s warranted here.

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Eve is what it is. It’s a harsh universe, and unapologetically so. It’s up to you do adapt to the game…not the game to adapt to you.

You can make good ISK in high-sec solo, and there are ways to mitigate ganking to the point where you can operate in complete safety.

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I do all of my PVE in high sec, I fly around with 100s of millions in cargo in a fairly expensive ship and when I do a Jita run to sell my wares and replenish ammo & consumables I move several billions through Uedama.

The last time I got ganked was in 2014 when I went on autopilot going “ehh it’ll be fine” in an Ishtar.

It’s an effort issue not a game issue and since EVE is a competitive sandbox that’s how it should be. Adapt, explode or quit.

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Unless you’re in a null alliance I think most people run their PvE in high-sec. Low-sec is just a mixed bag of snakes…

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EVE is actually solo friendly, but not quite sure if that’s compatible with “noob friendly” at the same time.

As many stated here: anything out of high sec is a wolf mouth you are agreeing to test if its going to bite you or not. If you seriously are having issues to make money / fun /whatever doing that, please go find something else to do. simple.

And the obvious answer: don’t go solo. EVE is full of corps / alliances that do anything the game lets you do, simply go find one, its not hard at all.

I’d agree with that (not so much “noob friendly”).

Its what I do. when in FW I have my fun there wanting pvp more. LP was nice, but I wanted the pvp really.

Empire is where I have fun pve. Hell I even like level 4’s to do freaky crap. Like last night since I now have 2 accounts up (cyno alt account is getting updated to recons).

Loki char cleaned up BC and below, in came the hound dual box jsut because…why the hell not. And the flyer needs standings fixing, I split rewards since all comes to me in the end lol.

It was in the area in case FW needed it. A need never came up…so now it was used. Stealth bombers can run level 4’s…with assistance lol.

I tell you what, the worst part of this game is the killboard mentality.
I’d get pirates killing me for the booty, it would support the fantasy and the setting. But players hunting other players just to fill a red bar on a third party website breaks the immersion a bit for me.

That is, unless we decide that in the EVE lore the process of becoming a capsuleer irremediably causes brain damage and makes you a rabid sociopath

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It’s not the quantity nor the killmail frenzy, its the quality.

When you look into someone’s killboard you don’t just take the kill ratio and isk burned, you look at stuff like how unfair was the battle, what was the victim doing / carrying / flying, where was the fight and who was it started by, etc.

I do agree most idiots just sit in a gate camp 16/6 killing anything that crosses by and think they are great players, which is pretty dumb. But I also believe the point of playing EVE is knowing how not to fall into that, in a way or another, which is the good part of EVE.

Some setups the only dude who actually worked for the kills is the bumber ship, usually an inty back in the day.

They bumped/found the dude going for mwd cloak trick lol. And the rest are lock and drop.

I only sat gates when mandated. Leadership said sit on gate, I did my shift on gate. I ran off it real fast after “shift” over too.

The true worst part of the game is its full of people who can’t bear that anyone might be better at it than them.

Most any game’s pvp is going to have that though.

NIce thing about eve km’s is we can see what they killed. A kill is a kill yes. But 5 dudes popping a hauler, to me, has less impact than say a dude who takes a lone phantasm against 5 people…and wins.

A game like wow…some dudes would take great pride in the damage meters numbers. They were completely uselss to work a strat to actually win the match. but yes their damage numbers were very nice.

Figures lie and liars figure. Cliche, maybe, but sometimes very valid lol.

Sure there is.

Buy ten Null Sec jump filaments plus 10 Trig inbound and outbound filaments.

Fit up a long range rail Tengu with Covert Ops cloak.

Jump into Null rat the belts, loot the ESS, if possible, run the combat sites, enjoy the freedom of earning hundreds of millions of ISK in a week.

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These were a nice addition to the game really.

Back in my day I had walk 10 miles up hill both ways to do this stuff. In the snow ofc…

Fastest way we had out (if jc timer was still going) was ye old pod express after parking at a npc. But self destructing a pod not really the best option with implants lol.

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Any hot tips for someone to pull down that level of dank cash for someone who’s too afraid to go to null-sec?

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Sometimes I make ten times that on a single gank.

No wonder Dryson blocked me, he’d be humiliated to know.

Arthur

With respect complete safety is not very likely. It can be at higher probability. But I sincerely doubt safety will ever be complete

It all depends on what activities you run and how you configure your ships. I can’t speak for everyone, but my biggest threat is disconnects - so I’ve planned my builds accordingly.

But you’re right - complete (100%) safety is probably beyond most. But high 90’s is definitely achievable…

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