one could have the impression once looking at the recent changes and the … ideas… recently popping up.
Actually one should force some guys (not all) at CCP to play their own game.
Not in a big power block deep in sov null or stuff but in HS / LS with NPC corp alignment or a small private one.
Besides… L4 and “insane” dps?
Hack you can do them in a meta T1 fitted battleship with skills at 3-4 if you are not brain afk and stage aggro and take some time.
Burners are something different so.
you do it backward.
Pick a mission, and try to do it in the best speed/cost ship
Buffer fit BS are fun when you need to use AB and nanofiber to reduce the incoming damage.
This can also be fun: just how fast can you burn it all to the ground? 
I agree, L4 are too easy so reward needs to be reduced. For a well equipped marauder they pose absolutely zero challenge.
So my proposals are:
solution was already suggested by CCP. moving them all to lowsec and increasing payouts.
risk vs reward properly.
I dont understand the point in trying to find out something that other people have already worked out.
If I do it as fast as I can, it just means the content isnt fun to do in the first place?
For that we already have L5s and FW missions, adding anything else to it is redundant. Now we only need nerfs to the existing L4s
How many missions have to be done to refund the cost of marauder? How much new BS will cost? Players will have to do them in cruisers, there’s your balance. Payout is very low compared to other pve activities in the game.
137 in average. This needs to go up to at least 200, so we’re talking 45% nerfs here. Considering that flying a marauder properly puts you in near complete safety the reward needs to be far far less.
Until few catalysts pop on d-scan and your marauder goes puff. Safety is a illusion.
Run Lv 4’s in Marauder, means one can get ganked and loose prone to 3B in one go…
You run missions faster, but risky, I lost a Vargur once to a 50 Catalyst fleet with bastion up I couldn’t move an inch! Not that easy isks!
exactly!
Because seeing combat probes on d-scan is your cue to run like hell burning your ECCM scripts to make it do another scan pass. When you see catalysts or tornadoes landing on grid it is already far too late to do anything.
That is why i specifically stressed the word:
if he wants to believe that undocking in a marauder is suicide, let him think so.
i lost a marauder to gank wen i was a noobie
pew pew pew
ohhhh a tengu…
maye he want to ninja salvage or sumting …
destroyers land
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
As I already wrote, being afraid of ganks is what makes you a newby.
So you still are a newby.
If L4 risk to reward is a joke, what is HS ice mining than? Even in absolute overcrowded systems you gain a lot for close to zero risk. You have spawn rates at which you can set your clock and if you intend to travel around a bit you make a bunch of money.
If you are lazy you just stay in “your system” and set your stop watch.
Wow… compared to that PVE mission running is dangerous as hell.
I’m not afraid of anything!
It’s calculating risk vs reward, and in that aspects, it’s a high risk vs little reward…
Don’t undock or scary gankers get ya 
Ice mining no longer works as you just described it. Its now random spawns with random times and much less overall quantity and RIDICULOUS amounts of bots and catalysts basically falling on you like rain ready to annihilate to dust any competition.
So fixed, yes.
I just lost another Wolf in Blood Raider Burner Mission… 80Mil ships went puff…
This thread ain’t about trolling me… If ya will so, I won’t stop you…
I couldn’t care less…
It’s about sharing views, cooperation, be polite, stuff like that…
This Cruor pulled out something like 280DPS… at least!
This is one example WHY I pledge for bounty rebalance.
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