Level 4 Mining Mission Summary

Mr_Carbon · August 27, 2019, 12:56pm

Howdy all.

I have made a few modifications to my system. I should note that some of the numbers that Shiven posted above were taken from Greedy Goblin’s blog, and he always had system wide orca boosts running. Solo Mining missions are not as profitable as they once were.

But I do have an interesting “double addition” to your arsenal. This works amazingly in Nullsec as well

. having +2 Faction AND +5 Corp for an EMPIRE corp who has a mining fleet, that fleet will defend you if attacked on grid. Not in a mission, but if you are being hunted you might be able to warp to a belt that has a friendly mining fleet and… suprise! This works best in lowsec as null has few “stations” to support a fleet.
. Having +5 faction to a PIRATE corp does the same. Again, this does not apply in a mission but it could be interesting at an undock!
Having really high faction or corp standings can be milked another way. There are two Level 4 Security missions that can be done quickly. Cargo delivery and Recon part 1-3. All can be done in an interceptor and give full level 4 security LP! If you are missioning, choose a station with a level 4 security agent IN ADDITION TO YOUR MINING AGENT. If you like you can even reject a bunch, lose some standings with agent, corp and faction but get more level 4 sec missions done. Each will count towards your storyline counter. There are people who mine in NM- for ORE and completely ignore the easy level 3 security missions that can be done in minutes!

As I write this, Blood raider LP is over 8k /lp. A null level 4 security mission gives amazing LP.

You can also do this for level 3’s as well. Worth it, imho, as long as you don’t NEED super high standings. I like to “burn off” sisters of eve standing since it rises so high from standard “empire” missioning. This also makes epic arcs more valuable, since that juicy 8% can be “burned off”. Careful to keep corporation (or agent!) above 5 or you won’t be able to do level 4’s.

Another idea: Ever wonder what to do with that high slot in your venture? Put a probe launcher in it! Scan down sigs as you gas harvest. Again, in low and null there are vauable data and relic sites.

And remember anything you have in Null can be brought to lowsec in Asset Safety for 15% of it’s value, NO MATTER THE SIZE

Enjoy!

Shriven_Intaki · August 30, 2019, 10:00pm

My current High Sec mining mission fleet and the missions I use them for are listed below.

L4 Gas Venture
• Gas Injections
• Like Drones to a Cloud

L4 Ice Retriever (w/Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I)
• Cheap Chills
• Ice Installation

L4 Ore Retriever
• Not Gneiss at All

L4 Ore Porpoise
• Arisite Envy
• Feeding the Giant
• Geodite and Gemology

As a general rule I will regularly decline the ‘Mother Lode’ mission and on the off chance I get it twice in a row I will just go do something else while waiting out the cool down on the penalty for declining a mission twice in four hours.

With the Blackout on I’ve not been doing many Mining Missions in Null Sec. The NM-OEA System has been pretty active… https://zkillboard.com/system/30004518/ - and when you’re not Blue to the regulars in the area it is most definitely NOT a ‘safe’ place to be AFK mining. Constant D-Scanning and looking for Combat Probes is the key to survival especially when you can’t see who is in Local anymore, if the Combat Probes get close (say 4au) then it’s time to start your exit strategy. It’s also super helpful to have some warp-to pings around the Stations in case of Bubbles.

Anderson_Geten · August 30, 2019, 10:03pm

they don’t need to dscan you. They have many mission sites bookmarked, and those are in limited number so they can easilty warp to you even though you don’t see the probes. Happened to me once.

Shriven_Intaki · August 31, 2019, 4:25am

I had no idea that missions used the same deadspace sites over again - good tip!

Thanks Anderson!!

Anderson_Geten · August 31, 2019, 9:50am

Maybe it’s in small quantities because nm- is small and grids can’t overlap.
Remember that deadspace pockets can be much bigger than a grid. Sometimes you can warp like 10 000 km away from the mission beacon and still land on the first gate.

Shriven_Intaki · October 12, 2019, 11:42pm

My current High Sec mining mission fleet and the missions I use them for are listed below.

L4 Gas Venture
• Gas Injections
• Like Drones to a Cloud

L4 Ice Retriever (w/Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I)
• Cheap Chills
• Ice Installation

L4 Ore Retriever
• Not Gneiss at All

L4 Ore Porpoise
• Arisite Envy
• Feeding the Giant
• Geodite and Gemology

As a general rule I will regularly decline the ‘Mother Lode’ mission and on the off chance I get it twice in a row I will just go do something else while waiting out the cool down on the penalty for declining a mission twice in four hours.

For the Null-sec missions when you’re not Blue to the regulars in the area it is most definitely NOT a ‘safe’ place to be AFK mining. Constant D-Scanning and looking for Combat Probes is the key to survival especially when you can’t see who is in Local anymore, if the Combat Probes get close (say 4au) then it’s time to start your exit strategy. It’s also super helpful to have some warp-to pings around the Stations in case of Bubbles.

Anderson_Geten · October 13, 2019, 2:30am

in null, you need :

A deep safe, that is further than 30 AU I think from a celestial.
an insta undock out of grid, if possible in the AU range of the station to not be dscaned easily.
one or more insta docks
one or more pings on the station out of grid in order to check for bubble on the station.

Shriven_Intaki · October 18, 2019, 1:54am

Cheers @Anderson_Geten - solid advice!

Complex_Math · October 26, 2019, 8:54pm

This guide is great- and I haven’t found this level of detail in other location. One area I’m struggling is what to buy with LP. I realize the market is constantly changing- and that people may not want to share their BEST secrets. But I’m currently making about 400 isk per LP - so ANY tips to get that higher would be greatly appreciated.

Anderson_Geten · October 26, 2019, 9:31pm

https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/

select your corp, then load buy buy order

Shriven_Intaki · November 7, 2019, 6:57pm

Hey @Complex_Math - hopefully Anderson’s link was helpful? That site is a super reference for LP conversion.

When you’re using the site and have found the Corp you’re gaining LP for I find it useful to sort by ‘isk/lp’ and then take a look at the ‘5% Volume’ column. Obviously items with more ‘isk/lp’ are better but if they don’t sell through quickly you may not see that isk very fast, sometimes it’s a wise choice to go for the items with less ‘isk/lp’ but that are selling more often.

Complex_Math · November 7, 2019, 7:14pm

Thanks. The link was very helpful.

I’m really bad at making isk in this game, I’m hoping the level 4 missions will be appropriate for someone with my skill level.

Mark_Octavius · November 10, 2019, 4:09am

Nice fits

Shriven_Intaki · November 20, 2019, 6:20pm

Thanks @Mark_Octavius - can’t take all the credit though there are lots of solid references out there for fits and fitting discussions.

Shriven_Intaki · January 15, 2020, 7:42pm

My current High Sec mining mission fleet and the missions I use them for are listed below.

L4 Gas Venture
• Gas Injections
• Like Drones to a Cloud

L4 Ice Retriever (w/Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I)
• Cheap Chills
• Ice Installation

L4 Ore Retriever
• Not Gneiss at All

L4 Ore Porpoise
• Arisite Envy
• Feeding the Giant
• Geodite and Gemology

As a general rule I will regularly decline the ‘Mother Lode’ mission and on the off chance I get it twice in a row I will just go do something else while waiting out the cool down on the penalty for declining a mission twice in four hours.

For the Null-sec missions when you’re not Blue to the regulars in the area it is most definitely NOT a ‘safe’ place to be AFK mining. Constant D-Scanning and looking for Combat Probes is the key to survival. If the Combat Probes get close (say 4au) then it’s time to start your exit strategy.

It’s also super helpful to have some warp-to pings around the Stations in case of Bubbles.

Mark_Octavius · January 30, 2020, 8:50am

Null-sec missions is very profitable, fly there and make them.

Shriven_Intaki · March 1, 2020, 1:04am

My current High Sec mining mission fleet and the missions I use them for are listed below.

L4 Gas Venture
• Gas Injections
• Like Drones to a Cloud

L4 Ice Retriever (w/Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I)
• Cheap Chills
• Ice Installation

L4 Ore Retriever
• Not Gneiss at All

L4 Ore Porpoise
• Arisite Envy
• Feeding the Giant
• Geodite and Gemology

As a general rule I will regularly decline the ‘Mother Lode’ mission and on the off chance I get it twice in a row I will just go do something else while waiting out the cool down on the penalty for declining a mission twice in four hours.

For the Null-sec missions when you’re not Blue to the regulars in the area it is most definitely NOT a ‘safe’ place to be AFK mining. Constant D-Scanning and looking for Combat Probes is the key to survival. If the Combat Probes get close (say 4au) then it’s time to start your exit strategy.

It’s also super helpful to have some warp-to pings around the Stations in case of Bubbles.

Shriven_Intaki · April 3, 2020, 9:35pm

My current High Sec mining mission fleet and the missions I use them for are listed below.

L4 Gas Venture
• Gas Injections
• Like Drones to a Cloud

L4 Ice Retriever (w/Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I)
• Cheap Chills
• Ice Installation

L4 Ore Retriever
• Not Gneiss at All

L4 Ore Porpoise
• Arisite Envy
• Feeding the Giant
• Geodite and Gemology

As a general rule I will regularly decline the ‘Mother Lode’ mission and on the off chance I get it twice in a row I will just go do something else while waiting out the cool down on the penalty for declining a mission twice in four hours.

For the Null-sec missions when you’re not Blue to the regulars in the area it is most definitely NOT a ‘safe’ place to be AFK mining. Constant D-Scanning and looking for Combat Probes is the key to survival. If the Combat Probes get close (say 4au) then it’s time to start your exit strategy.

It’s also super helpful to have some warp-to pings around the Stations in case of Bubbles.

Tatanka_Startamer · April 3, 2020, 9:42pm

Two questions:

I haven’t done any mining missions in ages (since I had ~5 or 6M SP, so when I was a newbie). Or any mining at all, tbh. What kind of ISK/hour can one expect for these?

Also:

Just as a helpful note, try declining two in a row while having the agent’s info window open, showing your standings. You’ll be surprised at how little standings you lose when you do this. If that’s the only instance where you would turn the mission down, you’ll find you can safely turn it down and not hurt your standings at all.

Shriven_Intaki · April 3, 2020, 11:05pm

Hey @Tatanka_Startamer there’s a little blurb about income in the OP up there somewhere:

Income
• If you are near the keyboard and dock as soon as the ice/gas/ore is mined out, you can do about 3 missions an hour. In High-Sec, a mission gives 1.8M ISK and 4.5K LP on average and depending on whose Loyalty Points you’re getting this can convert into over 40M/hour. In NPC nullsec, working for a Pirate Faction you can get up to 80M/hour.