No this is where you read the previous comments and learn to understand them.
Yes I see your point. You are wanting to rely on hearsay that supports your point of view while dismissing live data that does not. Hence my comment I smell propaganda.
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Oh so statements from CCP even though as we are not shareholders lying about unique numbers benefits CCP not in any way are hearsay but a concurrent user numbers that could be affected by the release of WOW classic are facts.
So I take it that the next set of financials by CCP will also be hearsay but something that supports what you are saying will be a fact.
I do not AFK playing any games, period!
I play EVE, builting stuffs for friend and corp members or for myself. Mostly are for a minimum cost or even free. I paid for all my acts with real money, no plex. People playing for plex are doing it wrong, IMHO.
I play EVE or game to get the kinks out of my long hard day at work. I do not need another job. I get on mine for 30 min, built stuffs and done.
Now getting on, spent 15 min just to look around watching gates to see if anybody coming in and out. Then âokâ it is safe let bring out a Skiff.
In the meantime my play time is up for the evening. Simply suck.
With BO my actually âplayingâ got cut down by a lot. So might as well call it quit.
For people that can spend a lot of time on the game, my hat is off to you.
Now I pretty much stopped getting on. My cash to CCP is also stopped.
I am going to buy a rock polishing kit and starting to polishing some rocks instead.
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Why would you troll in the first place?
And CCP promises nothing more than a sandboxâŚsame as it ever was. And it is nice to be back enjoying the game.
Itâs ok âSgtââŚif ad hominem attacks, garbage self-aggrandizing â â â â â â â â , and smug attempts at putting down other players are your way of compensating for some other personal issueâŚwhatever floats your boat.
Now go get your â â â â â â â shine box 
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And about now I am remembering wise old sayings about pearls before swine.
You are so bought in to the blackout because you feel that nullsec players have in someway slighted you personally that you canât even put together a reasonable statement that supports your position.
Yes I am aware of your comments in other threads unrelated to the blackout regarding nullsec players finally feeling the pain that you have felt.
The thing is this is exactly the point while CCP goes about making the game a place of pain rather than pleasure and reward for effort of course players will seek out other games to satisfy them.
As I see it there are a number of different players who all enjoy their gameplay a certain way.
- High sec
- Low sec
- Null sec
- Wormhole
- Abyssal site
I am of the view rather than seeking to penalise players for the different environment in which they chose to play, CCP should be seeking to make each place as rewarding as possible.
As for botters, I donât think they should factor into the thinking of how the game is developed because they will always be there as long as there are players. They will just move to the next bottable activity.
In my view there are a number of issues which a leading to the eve crisis, those being
- fear driven development, focusing on botters and market threats rather than creating awesome engaging ways that we can play in the sandbox
- toxicity among player groups, each of the above mentioned groups need to stop worrying about what is happening in a region of space they chose not to play in and instead focus on suggestions about how to make their space awesome to play in.
- CCP not being willing to treat their player base as humans, the comms on this blackout have been just abysmal
- CCPâs aversion to letting older players use the ships they have trained so hard to play in. I still canât believe you canât fly a carrier for missions in high sec of for wardecâs
Anyway while CCP continue on their current path it wont be much longer before the game doesnât exist and maybe that is the point of why they are behaving the way they are. Maybe they donât want a cash cow like eve online.
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Of course not.
Itâs true that numeric data is kind of incomplete and inconclusive from the BO scope but there is a problem, a huge problem when metrics are subject to speculative assumptions:
Hilmar & Co. said bots adapted +++ âanalistsâ of the July MER say the decline could be aided by the reduction of botting.
I donât know what everyone sees here but to me itâs quite clear whoâs the authority. And donât forget that Rhivre added a simple but compelling question without getting to detailsâŚ
Stop talking bots here. If there is a decline, and itâs not bots⌠well?
Can I suggest itâs regular -non cheating- entities? That it is the veteran player base whatâs taking the first wave of the hit? That this is the only part on which we can all agree that the Blackout is Op Success?
The problem is not the hit but the disproportion. If you hit a portion of a closed environment itâs never an issue but if you hit it hard enough that it ends up collapsing, itâs effects will propagate to the whole environment. Itâs inevitable.
Bots are everywhere. Itâs a gaming industryâs guilty pleasure, to put it somehow⌠their existence is unavoidable but their levels⌠thatâs another thing. People talk bots as if EVE was plagued of them to a point that the gameâs issues converge to it. Well, thatâs not true! the problems were artificially injected by the same crew that today mock your inability to do something about it.
Every single time someone mentions bots in relation with BO, what do you think is doing?
Loading a speculative argument to distract either from ignorance or from the real issue: that the problem is a crew that thought it was creative while misguiding the game and now is incapable of delivering a quality product because itâs too much work.
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Sorry I read that and got no further.
Pears before swine???
Was that one of the wise old sayings of Confused?
I figured thatâs where you would stop thank you for proving my point
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Your point was that you donât know wise quotes?
Well if you had of finished reading you would of known what my point was but you still would not have acknowledged it.
Anyway back to non-troll related conversation.
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Yeah I read the next bit. I should have stopped at the quote.
It has nothing to do with ânullsec players have in someway slighted you personallyâ
It is called game balance and when one part of a game is so out of balance it does and in this case did ruin the rest of the game.
3 months ago 23k average logins
1 month ago 20k average logins
last 2 weeks 19k average logins
last week 18k average logins
last 36 hours 15k average logins
Donât worry mate soon you wonât have to worry about anyone ruining your game balance.
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Personally I think the BO had little to do with Bots, it was about the massive risk reward balance in Null and just like tax cuts in the real world, it is a lot easier to give people an unsustainable benefit, rather than trying to take it away.
Biggest problem is that while Null has been given reward after reward, they have never had a real cut like the rest of EvE and I think that is why they are all acting in such an entitled manner.
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It might be safe to say botting has been removed from null sec. Local chat was actually the only way botters were able to determine who is in the system, without local the botters are seriously exposed because there is no event (local chat changing) for the bot program to use and instruct the ship to dock up/cloak.
Surely we must be able to agree that botting (Combat sites and ratting in particular) has been a major problem in Eve for over 10 years, there have even been successful businesses setup where people are hired to farm isk and sell it for cash on the internet.
There has been a lot of counterfeit isk in Eve and it must be stopped or serverely hampered as it will only pervert everything economy related in the game.
Due to the nature of Eve there seems to be no other way to strike a heavy blow to botting other than turning off local chat in null. Iâve gone over the botting situation in my mind and there is no update that the Bot creators can do to make their null sec bots safer.
You maybe right about bots moving to another area of the game and this might be a good thing. If we got them on the run they they may make mistakes which could make it easier for them to be identified and banned.
CCP, Well done for changing Eve into the real violent, relentless and unforgiving world it should have been in the first place. We have had it far too easy for far too long from my perspective my game is now balanced because they will simply have no idea that Iâm there.
Blackout Forever. HTFU or leave. your choice.
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Hey Aaron
I have read your post a couple of time to try and make sure I understand some of the underlying assumptions.
It seems to me that you have bought into this idea that bots are ruining the eve world. I remain unconvinced of this assumption. Why? Because botters have been part of eve for as long as I can remember. And despite them the market has ticked along traders have traded and industrialists have been industrial all the same.
Are botters undesirable certainly, are they worth centering game changes around, only if those changes donât make the game unenjoyable for the players.
The game needs to retain players and then attract new players not spit on the players they have for the sake of players that may never come.
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You have no idea what youâre talking about. Local chat in null is an ESSENTIAL feature that is required to make a bot work.
Mr. Reagan, after being promised to return to life as someone important like a President, while munching on a juicy, unbelievable delicious piece of tender, grilled to perfection piece of meat said:
Ignorance is bliss.
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I could show (again) where CCP representatives specified in an interview about Blackout that bots adapted quickly, so thatâs out of the question.
Dear Aaron,
I donât want to break your dream world, but bots evolve, players quit:
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