Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

so its OK for 10 of you to gank a lone defenseless crab, but its bad that they will respond with 10 for each of you. With other words you feel entitled to easy resistless kills.

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I didn’t say that they can’t respond. I said that it is pointless to engage them. (Borbarad Naglfar insinuated that the response fleets bring fights that are “fair”)

Disagreeing to free intel to crabs via local doesn’t entitle me to free kills at all. They can still work for their intel, pay attention, etc. Survive and keep doing what they always did. The questions is that are they entitled to know instantly who is there the minute the stargate is activated even though they (or their fleet mates) are not physically there? They did nothing to deserve that intel. Didn’t even build a structure or maintain it NOTHING.

See, that is the point. They shouldn’t be entitled to this free intel automatically by doing nothing. Even if they don’t have that intel, I still have to work for my kills and am not entitled to anything.

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No i said if the response is too strong give them a runaround.
But ring something that can kite, split the gang and kill the tackle?
Noo thats too dangerous for you :’(

Having eyes on gate still does nothing to prevent you from loging in a cyno and jumping a dread bomb ontop of whatever. At that point one is better off living in a wormhole right away and because nullsec people were not interested in living in wormholes in the first place they stoped playing instead.
Your whining about not getting content would only get worse if CCP stuck with this dumb decission.
And fueling one more sturcture does nothing to improve gameplay. On what basis do you claim this ‘should’ not be this way annyways? Because you say so? Because they don’t have web cams in the future?

what intel will allow me to have attention on your cloacky ship?
It is pointless to undock, and that what people did and forced CCP to reverse the BO.
But what entitles you to sitting ducks and free kills?

As I said, nothing “entitles” me to free kills, just like nothing should entitle you to free intel via local. It should work both ways. But of course only absolute safety is what will get you to undock.

uhuh?

So then the blackout didn’t need to be removed as you claim because people are out in space anyway. Gotta love showing partial statistics.

What entitles you to free intel via the in-game map and ESI?

only it’s far less than before BO
are you really that dense or just trolling now? -.-’’

I think this should be removed as well. So CCP please make the blackout real and not this partial BS you did before :stuck_out_tongue:

Then if you are trying to prove a point with numbers, put the story you are trying to portray up. All you showed is that people were in space during blackout, not any comparison. So yes, I was calling out your fail to support your claim with the data that you yourself presented.

it both debunks your theory that we’re all carebears who will only undock in ‘absolute safety’ as well as the claim BO was ‘good for content’

Nuff said.

Here you go:

Source: https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Original #s courtesy CCP.

And so it should be - Why should a solo or small gang be able to kill miners or ratters with little to no risk?
You just sound like a little kid who just wants to pull the family dogs tail and then blame the dog when it bites you.

19 July - Died to a ratting VNI
24 July - Died while solo roaming to a small gang
2 August - Died to a ratting fit myrm and a vexor.
From here it looks more like - These nasty PVE’rs kill you when you engage them.

No offence but i have roamed in small gangs with some of your alliance mates - Find them and learn a thing or two.
OR you could just keep complaining about how hard PVP is while dying to PVE’rs.

It isn’t the games fault you can’t get easy kills.

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And in of itself that is not the whole story because CCP also banned many bots at the same time, which would also show a lower login total. So, the data would need to be corrected for suspected bot logins which were removed.

"Firstly the raw numbers for the month of August:

994 account bans for account hacking.
4,369 account bans for botting related activities.
2,454 account bans for RMT related activities.

These numbers represent account action taken between 2019/08/01 - 2019/09/01."

If you correct for the banned bots, it could be that the logins of non bots increased during the blackout.

Literally the only effect of the blackout was that subcap ratters didn’t undock, while supercap ratters and Rorqual miners kept going under the umbrella. Subcaps were simply sitting ducks in a no-local environment; why would you bother doing that for a paltry reward when you can just log in a high-sec L4 or incursion alt?

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Yep. However…

I mean, it’s not like this hasn’t already been addressed in this topic.

The bot numbers do not account for the drop in activity. When you factor in the fact that many of these are almost certainly repeat offenders, they don’t even come close.

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Funny but most of your recent kills indicate the odds going the other way - 5 or 6 vs 1, over and over.

Noone gets a 93% danger rating if he doesn’t fight like a coward.
He isn’t actually asking for an improvement on PVP but merely wants to make his killboad grinding easyer.
Also being a credit card warrior without actually being able to afford it can be stressful…