Of course they are - they are also looking at how this does not really effect caps and fleets much.
It forces a small player like me to have to fleet up with a person like you who finds my worth to much less then theirs to make a living.
You can apply that to most new and under funded players. If you think applying the idea of not good enough to play works then you will soon be living in a region with very few plays and many alts.
Local isntā deletedā¦ you could have begged and pleaded in there to your hearts content.ānot everyone has covered it over yet 
cloak cyno alts shā¦ game
Because we can sit 2 BFG titans on each side of every gate under the umbrella for 6hr shifts w/24h coverage, retain a full standing fleet of titans, supers and faxes for additional response, and still send 3 SIGs out on offensive deployments?
Edit: I mean, itās kinda ridiculous these days. We moved 1400 titans for the last war. Just titans. And still had people ratting in more titans in Delve. Fortunately, some of those idiots died.
But really, itās too much. And, at the same time, itās still completely necessary to ward against another casino war scenario. So weāre gonna do it, unless they get these things out of the game.
if you feel unsafe join a corp and work with them enough said, as it is nowhere is safe in EVE .
its a freaking game you pay to play. if they do full free no local anywhere whatever fine. as i mentioned make a hole region like that ā¦ oh no we have that l ready called WHs. there are way too many metaphors could be used for this. its fine its their game we are just talking about consequences and effects on the community and as it seen it really not being taken to happily. i would love someone explain why this is a good idea. i really would? ā¦ like now how many on forums instead of adding to the economy. i build less i fight less and cause of that the isk i/we make wont go into the economy right? thereās an other idea ālets turn eve into only pvp! " oh i would love it, but they wont go for itā āI HAVE AN IDEA lets start nerfing the pve ships then just make all sec no local starting at NSā maybe that what the want they just dont want a sudden change . ok im off too much thinking . was nice debating
Nope , Iām a CEO, and as a good CEO my role is to think about my guys and defend their gameplay, before my own gameplay. Personnally I donāt care much about that, I can 5 tier abyss all day long and make around 300 millions per hour, thus killing group play by simply playing solo. I will never think running out of a space because the lack of safety will be a good solution, I think more than defending my group gameplay and find solutions to adapt to situation changes if the real solution, but this change is way too brutal to too many players so in my opinion, it has a lot to do with the respect CCP should have to people playing Eve, the same people that choosed to live in nullsec because itās reasonably safe while making reasonable isks. without local, nullsec will allow much less earning than wormholes, and is the same time people living in nullsec are much more vulnerable ā¦ think about balance, maybe ?
And many in this threat are fat pretending hypocrites, who do not think itās worth mentioning that they canāt hide if they want to do anything in space, and forced into a pve ship that has been nerfed into oblivion, but you can and will hide and will only jump when itās safe.
There are still no pros to this blackout, and a whole bunch of cons.
carrier/super ratting is far from AFK!!!
Aside from the fact that character is badly skilled and probably not ready to fly a BS-- thatās still a 4 hour return on investmentānot at all badā¦actually pretty darn good. It would take a lot bigger change than removing local to make that not worth flying unless ones just unlucky enough to be in bad system.
Carrier ratting is far from AFK. Super ratting? Not that far. I do plenty of it in my Hel, and itās not even optimized for ratting.
True but it the additional length of time ratting and refitting added to game that reduces the true eve play time. If people are willing to spend that extra time then the change will fly. If people are not then the change will be a negative one
holy carp, just fly a Myrmidon. Itās like 2 ticks to profitable until you can afford a Dominixā¦ which also hits profitability in the first 4h.
just curious - how many months is it for you to train into the ship? With guns/missiles, shields armor, prop mod and other core skills?
Guess people should wait it out in hi sec till they skill up - of course if they really want to fly a pvp ship then they should balance their training or go full out for their fun play or full out for their isk making play time?
ITS TO ENTICE TO INSTANT CASINO STYLE REWARDS(PLEX)
not really yet may as well be,
eve is time consuming as a hobby waitā¦ BUY MORE PLEX SELL ON MARKET OR CARRY IN THE CARGO BAY Be sure to use a shuttle or a kestrel then undock from jita without a instant safe warp out bookmark then get cargo scanned then get popped!! Become famous instantly in eve online for the next killmail in all of eve online be sure to include lot of skill injectors.
Wait ZKILL IS NOT WORKING!!
Nor is null blackout what is the point of the gameā¦
The most engaging experience of eve online by ccp.
Never heard of it, and I was in it. Still trying to brute force history into less pride-stinging shapes?`
And yet, youāre not going to do that, and if you did itās āmade you do something that monumentally fuckinā ridiculousā material, not āBlackout doesnāt workā. Yes, Titan/super/rorqual/keepstar numbers are utterly retarded by now but that isnāt really what Blackout addresses. Be a bit persistent and youāll get covcynos past camps and then itās done. The area is now compromised. This is an unmitigated win and progress in terms of small-guy effectiveness.
And that small guy sure as crap aināt taking Sov of course, but he can live in the NPC stations a few constellations over and be effective on his own scale, which was frankly kind of impossible before Blackout.
Again, Iām interested to hear what the negative of Blackout is that makes these things not worth it.
Sounds like you heard of it just fine.
All heās getting out of this is harder targets. Like any other predation, it just makes the targets get better at not being targets. Give it a week. Give it two. See how many of the people excited to be running face-first into gate camps now are still excited. See what the actual kill numbers look like. Then maybe success/fail can be evaluated.
If it forces afk-ratters and so on to adapt and actually work to be safe, then this is an actual benefit to Blackout. If it makes the targets better, (this is in my experience not what happens. They just tend to curl up in a fetal position and cry about it instead.) then that is a positive result from Blackout. If it forces actually defending space rather than automating it with perfect intel, then itās a positive result.
Iām still waiting to hear what the negative side to Blackout is.
Well this thread has certainly turned into a Mega-Thread.
Sooo, how many posted replies are required to turn this into a Threadnought, 10k?
Making use of the tools available to them is āgetting betterā. Adaptability, not specialization, is the key to long-term survival.