Unless something has changed, at 10k posts the thread auto locks. So as of this post about 2234 more posts and this wave of salt will be over.
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lul. The salt will never be over
If the only thing keeping activity up is twatting the odd afk ratter or bot that screws up the perfect safety of the intel umbrella, then thatâs not a living game anyway. Itâs a carcass with maggots squirming in it, and giving up that ghost would be a good thing indeed because that isnât worth keeping around. Youâre also vastly underestimating what the ability smaller entities are now gaining to even exist without instant titan spam dropping on their heads can potentially do for PvP focused entities. They can now tangle with each other without you or other blobs instantly coming down on them for the crime of existing within range as well. Well, to a degree obviously.
Which one of us is currently claiming that the freakinâ afk ratters and whiny arse bears will suddenly be adapting and thriving under Blackout, while the hunters and content creators are somehow going to be unable to take advantage of this newfound reality to create content and shenanigans? Iâm not exactly having high thoughts about what people are going to do here, while youâre saying these worthless lazy creatures are going to be simultaneously unsub and quit, and somehow vastly increase the activity needed for completely safe bearing.
Seriously though, if you think maintaining the status quo of nullsec is a better thing than opening it up for actual activity under Blackout, Iâm not sure what to even say.
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Really, I didnât know that. Thanks for the info.
Guess anything above that causes stress and increases load time.
All rather short sited points. Itâs also easier for PVe miners and ratters to move around. Instead of a mining turret use that rorq whatâs built for and go ninja mine an enemy moon taking Hulks and clones with you. Savvy Indy players are licking their chops and going to wait and save their ores because prices are going to climb again and reward groups willing to take risk. Not so sure about caps not being usedâno reason really not to, just takes more organization to have similar intel as before. More of the short sighted disadvantages are either going to automatically become long term ones or pretty easy to turn into positive effects for PVE.
Iâm new here, but from what I have seen from yesterday and today. Actual activity is prolly the wrong words to use here.
I would go with a Lot of cov ops and ceptors and whatnot. but most of the numbers not even bothering to log in in the first place.
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Keep watching. If thereâs one thing that wonât change until Eve dies, itâs players adapting to adaptations to adaptations. Covops and ceptors will be countered, and the counter will be countered until new balance is attained.
⌠probably. Weâll see.
I think maintaining the status quo is bad, but this wonât fix it. Hunting ratters and miners is fluff. Itâs nothing. It wonât change the landscape in any way that has any lasting impact, just like it never has. Believe me, I wish it would. Iâd love it if you were right about this. But the examples weâve got from the past say the âafk ratters and whiny arse bearsâ will adapt just like they have in the past.
Because they have. Theyâve upshipped, theyâve set up defensive nets⌠and the hunters have bitched about it. The worthless lazy creatures will do what worthless lazy creatures always do: whatever they need to in order to remain lazy absolutely as much of the time as possible. Thatâs what people do. Itâs what they always do. Some will unsub. Others will make minor adjustments that require more of a change from the people hunting them. Again, just like always.
Hell, our entire defense fleet is one of those minor changes. It started off as carrier ratters deciding âscrew it, weâll fit cynos and bail each other outâ up in Deklein. And through a large number of extremely minor changes, itâs gotten to be an obscene number of people looking for excuses to throw bosons at gates and yell at blues for getting between their gun and their target.
Offense is the more effort-intensive activity. Defense, especially in numbers, is inherently more apt to the lazy.
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Everyone does what he likes
When they do not do what they love finishes
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Yeah, you really have zero clue what youâre talking about⌠Local deterred content as everyone had forewarning. Gangs wouldnât engage unless they thought it was favorable. Now, â â â â happens as per screenshot. Stop being a salty â â â â , and learn what d-scan is. Who knows, you might even make friends in the process whoâll happily gatecamp for you while you run your bots.
Or go to lowsec and suck off some Snuff dudes in exchange for protection.
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Here is a thought for the people in Nullsec complaining.
One reason for the Blackout is to see if it effects the people who run Bots. So guys Why not make it a habit of going after them yourselves instead of turning a blind eye or even worse.
If you guys policed yourselves - instead of ignoring the issue - maybe this wouldnt be neccisary?
Pay me Team Securityâs salary if you want me to do their job.
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With drifters knocking down the veteran player sandcastles who have mods/cheat scripts etc to watch everything for them and just real in billions of isk at little effort, I applaud CCP. And now the great blackout, hmm, so players actually have to use their heads and utilize the ingame ship radar and actually communicate to each other for system recon? who woulda though. good thinking CCP. Remember yâall, CCP is trying to have EvE as a chaos wargame, theyâre not concerned about comfort mining/relaxed gameplay. if you wanted that, choose one of the other space games out there.
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Itâll help some aspects of it. Like I said, now smaller more PvP focused entities can exist without being perpetually under the eye of Sauron and swatted out of the sky if they dare be undocked. This lets them tangle with both each other and the bears. If it means the bears adapt, then that too is a good thing, forcing more and different activity than is currently required. These are all wins.
Now targets that arenât failed afk ratters and bots can exist. The nullsec ecosystem can now support entities that arenât megacoalitions.
This is a start. It wonât fix Eve, but nothing short of deleting all supers and removing all skill injectors and most super/rorq capable characters from Eve can possibly fix it, but itâs something a damn sight more than the status quo, which is completely and utterly untenable.
Hell, even if it somehow killed Eve itâd be vastly preferable to the current status quo.
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Funny how people measure everything by themselves, and when they have no clue, suddenly nobody does.
No local deters it 10 times harder.
They wonât engage now either.
How to dscan cloaky?
I donât bot. Iâm probably checked 10 times over by CCP by now for posting in this thread, and this is fine, because I donât.
If they enjoy this crap they better move to wh.
This âdiscussionâ and the discussions elsewhere like on Reddit are a good example of why real life human society is messed up.
Iâm serious. There is a reality happening (the black out in null) that is having a real impact on things. And none of the people talking about it can see any of this reality because they are stuck in their ideologies and wishful thinking. People are so stuck on what they want to happen, whats actually happening (good or bad) doesnât matter.
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The Drifters didnât knock down squat. Honestly, CCP puts out a Scope video, and you fools stop knowing how to think critically. They RFâd a few structures on the first day. After that, they didnât RF anything bigger than jump bridge. And they didnât kill anything at all except for a single structure they stumbled across while it was still anchoring.
And they stopped doing even that. They havenât been attacking for 5 days now.
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You do bot. You admitted using automated warnings and this is equal to botting.
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They always could. If they couldnât, they wouldnât have survived to get here. Thatâs not a change.
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By that logic, everyone bots. You get an automated warning when your ship is taking damage: the monitors above your capacitor start showing red.
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