There are no vague accusations of abuse. I’m telling you flat out that your idea will be abused to the absolute fullest. We do it to everything else in this game, why would your idea be any different? You need to be aware of this for any idea you ever suggest for any game. The very first question you should ask yourself is, “How will this be abused?” because I can guarantee you with all the certainty in the universe that it will be abused in ways you couldn’t possibly imagine.
The failing here is yours for not anticipating this, not mine for pointing it out. Do please get control of your emotions.
Why should you have that information without being there to witness it? If you don’t see someone jump to a cyno, why should you then be able to know that is their cyno alt?
How does some random nobody on a planet nowhere near there then have that information to drop on the ground for some grunt to just happen to pick up?
You are as well random nobody when using alts. And the OP was very specific about where the CDFs come from
station’s security drones/hacked station terminals and other such tight and crampy spaces dotting New Eden
– not planets.
And nothing prevents this proposed mechanics to tie what Locator Agent can obtain from CDF, to its origin.
So first, you would need to use Locator Agent in a regular way to locate the target’s recent position.
Next you would need to task Vanguards to go to that system/station and obtain CDFs from there. Then go back to the Locator Agent with the CDFs.
Not a free lunch entirely to be easily abused imho. And it’s worth the effort based on what more could be learned about the target.
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In November update of EVE Vanguard side new activity will be added of generating contraband for EVE side. Beside contribution to corruption/suppression in Pirate Insurgency systems. Bo specific details yet. CDFs could be part of that contraband in the future.
Last person to receive boosts from (list can be up to five people)
Last person to receive reps from (list can be up to five people)
All financial or goods transactions with anyone considered a criminal or with sec status below -5.
Don’t know. All I did was ask if you had ever seen a conclusion that you haven’t immediately jumped at and what logical basis you had for the idiotic assumption that I wanted all locator agents to go away.
No, this idea would reduce conflict. Supers and jump freighters will just get that much less likely to log in if you increase their risk by multiple orders of magnitude. You’re offering essentially free intel that currently takes a good spy to ferret out.
Stop projecting, you can’t know that. And there is no such thing in New Eden as safety. Anything that lowers the safety is good for the game and helps players devise new ways to deal with it. And is good for the game (…and CCP) by creating more resource sinks.
Those cowards who you think will stop playing out of fear of being “effortlessly hunted” will be replaced by more bold Capsuleers.
The only thing I think you are afraid of, if Locator Agents start providing more info, is that you somehow become obsolete (which is absurd imho). This seems to be a personal issue for you and that’s why your posting style in this thread is so hostile and aggressive. Your judgment is being distorted by false impression of self-importance.
Yes, actually I can know that. In the current state, super pilots in the large alliances already have restrictions placed on them about how they can use their supers. The ones outside the big alliances follow similar protocols because that’s how you keep a super safe.
So, yes, I can know that the big alliances will place further restrictions on their super pilots, thus limiting thier usefulness even further. It’s basic f*cking deductive reasoning.
Now who’s projecting? I’m not the one having an emotional breakdown because someone disagreed with me. I’ve repeatedly stated I have no stake in this, yet you keep imagining that I somehow do. I don’t have to still fly a super anymore to disagree with this.
Then, they will adapt to new “circumstances”. This is not a valid argument against the OP proposition. There will always be new elements introduced into the game that will force/prompt players to change their habits. You want to argue with that?
You don’t disagree - you aggressively attack the OP idea and bully other posters here using negative wording. If you just try to be more polite and civil…
Nobody said you have emotional breakdown. Again, stop projecting.
Oh? So tell me how a jump freighter pilot adapts to you being able to ferret out his entire jump route by paying off a series of locator agents? A bad spy with 50 alts can find these routes using nothing but ISK under your idea, and there’s nothing the jump freighter pilot can do about it, because no amount of current counter measures can counter whatever space magic you use to justify this. Where currently it takes skill and knowledge to hunt down supers and jump freighters, your idea makes it a matter of ISK. Having magic measures you can do nothing about does not drive content, it stifles it.
Tell me, how many times do I have to debunk the same bad ideas? Ten? Fifty?
Did you even look to see what has been suggested surrounding locator agents in the past on this forum, or did you think you had an original idea and just spewed it out? There’s a few already existing, closed, threads that similarly discuss expanding the capabilities of Locator Agents. These threads are closed because, like the discussion around ganking, this topic has been discussed to death.
Also, I stopped having to be nice to entitled kids when I quit working retail.
The fact that you take my comments and suggestions as insults tells me they’re either correct or that you get offended for no reason. So you either lack emotional control or something worse. As the saying goes, truth only hurts those who want to believe a lie. The reason your insults don’t matter to me is because I know the truth about myself, so your lie doesn’t effect me.
Idk, having a bigger escort? Maybe even using Locator Agent expanded services to check who is after them and adjust the route?
wow, that’s at least 16 paid accounts. And it’s “bad” according to you? So how many alts is “good” for “supers hunting” in your opinion? A 100? This sounds like a very inefficient way of gaining information. And it doesn’t make it “noble” by making it arduous. That’s why cars replaced horse and carriage combo.
And why is that wrong? All has a price in New Eden. Why not more information? And how having 16 accounts is not matter of ISK? You need to PLEX them right? With what?
You can use same magic measures to counter them, nothing stops you from that.
Locator Agents? You only did it once before mine, using insults and bullying again.
Yes. Found only one such thread dedicated to expanding Locator Agents but it was for tracking logins. You made an appearance there as well. Admitting to using the Locator Agent …once.
I’d mentioned expanding Locator Agents services even earlier in a thread dedicated to emergent meta gameplay vs structured gameplay for “nativelly” embracing that meta.
And there was no EVE Vanguard previously that could open and justify new venues of gaining access to more information about other players in a structured way so yes tying Locator Agent expanded services to Vanguard activity is an original idea.
what insults? Read your own words:
The fact that you take my comments and suggestions as insults tells me they’re either correct or that you get offended for no reason
what lie?
I guess you will post here until an ISD looses her patience and closes the thread due to more spam than legitimate discussion so I will ask for this thread to be closed to spare everybody’s time…
