Logi love <3 and values to compare


(elitatwo) #1

So, I did it again. This time is a little more extensive, not entirely complete but extensive enough.

Legend:

  • 1 means meta module
  • 2 means tech 2 module
  • s means storyline module
  • c means c-type
  • b means b-type
  • a means a-type

All values are in shield, armor or capacitor per second.

Tech one cruisers:

Augoror fleet 3x1 = 182 armor + 129.6 cap
Augoror fleet 3x2 = 208 armor + 140.4 cap
Augoror fleet 4x1 = 242.66 armor + 129.6 cap
Augoror fleet 4x1 = 285.49 armor + 129.6 cap (heat)
Augoror fleet 4x1 = 285.49 armor + 129.6 cap (rapid repair, Battlecruiser)
Augoror fleet 4x1 = 335.87 armor + 129.6 cap (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, heat)
Augoror fleet 4x1 = 298.85 armor + 129.6 cap (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Augoror fleet 4x1 = 351.59 armor + 129.6 cap (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Augoror fleet 5x1 = 303.33 armor
Augoror fleet 5x1 = 419.839 armor (heat)
Augoror fleet 5x1 = 419.839 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser)
Augoror fleet 5x1 = 182 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, heat)
Augoror fleet 5x1 = 373.56 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Augoror fleet 5x1 = 439.486 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Augoror fleet 5x2 = 346.66 armor
Augoror fleet 5x2 = 407.843 armor (heat)
Augoror fleet 5x2 = 407.843 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser)
Augoror fleet 5x2 = 479.816 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, heat)
Augoror fleet 5x2 = 426.929 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Augoror fleet 5x2 = 502.270 armor (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Augoror fleet 3xc = 260 armor + 146.4 cap (centum. corpum) (3x2)
Augoror fleet 3xb = 283 armor + 151.2 cap (centum. corpum) (3x2)
Augoror fleet 3xa = 305.5 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (3x2)
Augoror fleet 3xa = 407.33 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (4x1)
Augoror fleet 3xa = 479.21 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (4x1) (heat)
Augoror fleet 3xa = 488.8 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (4x1) (rapid repair, Absolution)
Augoror fleet 4xa = 581.91 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (4x1) (rapid repair, Absolution, heat)
Augoror fleet 4xa = 520 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (4x1) (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink)
Augoror fleet 4xa = 611 armor + 157.2 cap (centum. corpum) (4x1) (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink, heat)

Osprey fleet 3x1 = 183 shield + 129.6 cap
Osprey fleet 3x2 = 207.375 shield + 140.4 cap
Osprey fleet 4x1 = 243.875 shield + 129.6 cap
Osprey fleet 4x1 = 286.91 shield + 129.6 cap (heat)
Osprey fleet 4x1 = 286.91 shield + 129.6 cap (active shielding, Battlecruiser)
Osprey fleet 4x1 = 337.54 shield + 129.6 cap (active shielding, Battlecruiser, heat)
Osprey fleet 4x1 = 300.34 shield + 129.6 cap (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Osprey fleet 4x1 = 353.34 shield + 129.6 cap (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 304.75 shield + 129.6 cap
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 305 shield
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 345.625 shield (heat)
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 345.625 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser)
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 422.145 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, heat)
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 375,616 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Osprey fleet 5x1 = 441.9 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Osprey fleet 5x2 = 345.625 shield
Osprey fleet 5x2 = 406.618 shield (heat)
Osprey fleet 5x2 = 406.618 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser)
Osprey fleet 5x2 = 478,374 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, heat)
Osprey fleet 5x2 = 425,647 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Osprey fleet 5x2 = 500.761 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Osprey fleet 3xc = 261 shield + 146.4 cap (pithum. corpum) (3x2)
Osprey fleet 3xb = 285.375 shield + 151.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (3x2)
Osprey fleet 3xa = 309.75 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (3x2)
Osprey fleet 3xa = 413 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (4x1)
Osprey fleet 3xa = 485.88 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (4x1) (heat)
Osprey fleet 3xa = 500.606 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (4x1) (active shielding, Nighthawk)
Osprey fleet 4xa = 590 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (4x1) (active shielding, Nighthawk, heat)
Osprey fleet 4xa = 520 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (4x1) (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink)
Osprey fleet 4xa = 623.4 shield + 157.2 cap (pithum. corpum) (4x1) (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink, heat)

Osprey solo 3x1 = 183 shield + 43.2 cap
Osprey solo 3x2 = 207.375 shield + 43.2 cap
Osprey solo 5x1 = 151.5 shield
Osprey solo 5x2 = 172 shield
Osprey solo 5xa = 257.5 shield (pithi)
Osprey solo 5xa = 302.94 shield (pithi) (heat)
Osprey solo 5xa = 332.26 shield (pithi) (active shielding, Nighthawk)
Osprey solo 5xa = 367.86 shield (pithi) (active shielding, Nighthawk, heat)
Osprey solo 5xa = 332.26 shield (pithi) (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink)
Osprey solo 5xa = 381.48 shield (pithi) (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink, heat)

Augoror solo 3x1 = 182 armor + 43.5 cap
Augoror solo 3x2 = 208 armor + 43.3 cap
Augoror solo 5x1 = 151.67 armor
Augoror solo 5x2 = 173 armor
Augoror solo 5xa = 255 armor (centi)
Augoror solo 5xa = 294.23 armor (centi) (heat)
Augoror solo 5xa = 306 armor (centi) (rapid repair, Absolution)
Augoror solo 5xa = 364.29 armor (centi) (rapid repair, Absolution, heat)
Augoror solo 5xa = 318.75 armor (centi) (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink)
Augoror solo 5xa = 382.5 armor (centi) (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink, heat)

scythe 3x1 = 182.81 + 64.8 = 247.61 shield
scythe 3x1 = 215.29 + 64.8 = 280.09 shield (heat)
scythe 3x1 = 215.29 + 64.8 = 280.09 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser)
scythe 3x1 = 253.29 + 64.8 = 318.09 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, heat)
scythe 3x1 = 225.37 + 64.8 = 290.17 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
scythe 3x1 = 265.14 + 64.8 = 329.94 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
scythe 3x2 = 207.19 + 64.8 = 271.99 shield
scythe 3x2 = 243.97 + 64.8 = 308.77 shield (heat)
scythe 3x2 = 243.97 + 64.8 = 308.77 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser)
scythe 3x2 = 287.02 + 64.8 = 351.82 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, heat)
scythe 3x2 = 255.39 + 64.8 = 320.19 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
scythe 3x2 = 300.46 + 64.8 = 365.26 shield (active shielding, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
scythe 3xc = 232.9166 + 64.8 = 297.72 shield (gistum)
scythe 3xb = 257.5 + 64.8 = 322.3 shield (gistum)
scythe 3xa = 276.25 + 64.8 = 341.05 shield (gistum)
scythe 3xa = 326.07 + 64.8 = 390.88 shield (gistum) (heat)
scythe 3xa = 331.5 + 64.8 = 396.3 shield (gistum) (active shielding, Nighthawk)
scythe 3xa = 390 + 64.8 = 454.8 shield (gistum) (active shielding, Nighthawk, heat)
scythe 3xa = 355.18 + 64.8 = 419.98 shield (gistum) (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink)
scythe 3xa = 414.375 + 64.8 = 479.18 shield (gistum) (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink, heat)

Exequror 3x1 = 182 + 70 = 252
Exequror 3x1 = 214.12 + 70 = 284.12 (heat)
Exequror 3x1 = 214.12 + 70 = 284.12 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser)
Exequror 3x1 = 251.90 + 70 = 321.90 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, heat)
Exequror 3x1 = 224.14 + 70 = 294.14 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Exequror 3x1 = 263.69 + 70 = 333.69 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Exequror 3x2 = 208 + 70 = 278
Exequror 3x2 = 244.71 + 70 = 311.71 (heat)
Exequror 3x2 = 244.71 + 70 = 311.71 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser)
Exequror 3x2 = 287.89 + 70 = 357.89 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, heat)
Exequror 3x2 = 256.16 + 70 = 326.16 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink)
Exequror 3x2 = 301.36 + 70 = 371.36 (rapid repair, Battlecruiser, mindlink, heat)
Exequror 3xc = 231.1 + 70 = 301.1 (corelum)
Exequror 3xb = 252.777 + 70 = 322.77 (corelum)
Exequror 3xa = 277.44 + 70 = 347.44 (corelum)
Exequror 3xa = 322.17 + 70 = 392.17 (corelum) (heat)
Exequror 3xa = 329.33 + 70 = 399.33 (corelum) (rapid repair, Absolution)
Exequror 3xa = 390 + 70 = 460 (corelum) (rapid repair, Absolution, heat)
Exequror 3xa = 352.86 + 70 = 422.86 (corelum) (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink)
Exequror 3xa = 411.66 + 70 = 481.66 (corelum) (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink, heat)

Logistic cruisers:

Basilisk 4x1 = 300 shield + 36 shield + 129.6 cap
Basilisk 4x2 = 340 shield + 36 shield + 140.4 cap
Basilisk 4x2 = 412.12 shieldshield (6x large t2)
Basilisk 4x2 = 485.71 shield (active shielding, Nighthawk, heat)
Basilisk 4x2 = 431.75 shield (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink)
Basilisk 4x2 = 513.21 shield (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink, heat)
Basilisk 6x2 = 255 shield (6x medium t2), (this one was used in the alliance tournament)
Basilisk 6x2 = 510 shield (6x large t2)
Basilisk 6x2 = 600 shield (6x large t2), (heat)
Basilisk 6x2 = 616.69 shield (6x large t2), (active shielding, Nighthawk)
Basilisk 6x2 = 725.51 shield (6x large t2), (active shielding, Nighthawk, heat)
Basilisk 6x2 = 652.17 shield (6x large t2), (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink)
Basilisk 6x2 = 767.26 shield (6x large t2), (active shielding, Nighthawk, mindlink, heat)
Basilisk 6xa = 381 shield (medium pithum a-type)

Guardian 4x1 = 298.66 armor
Guardian 4x2 = 341.33 armor
Guardian 4x2 = 409.6 armor (rapid repair, Absolution)
Guardian 4x2 = 476.28 armor (rapid repair, Absolution, heat)
Guardian 4x2 = 435.75 armor (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink)
Guardian 4x2 = 512 armor (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink, heat)
Guardian 6x2 = 256 armor (6x medium t2), (this one is use in the alliance tournament)
Guardian 6x2 = 512 armor (6x large t2)
Guardian 6x2 = 602.35 armor (6x large t2), (heat)
Guardian 6x2 = 619.11 armor (6x large t2), (rapid repair, Absolution)
Guardian 6x2 = 728.36 armor (6x large t2), (rapid repair, Absolution, heat)
Guardian 6x2 = 653.06 armor (6x large t2), (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink)
Guardian 6x2 = 768.31 armor (6x large t2), (rapid repair, Absolution, mindlink, heat)
Guardian 6xa = 376 armor (6x medium centum)

scimitar 4x1 = 300 + 64.8 = 364.8 shield
scimitar 4x2 = 340 + 64.8 = 404.8 shield
scimitar 4xa = 226.66 + 64.8 = 291.466 shield (gist a-type)
scimitar 4xa = 267.54 + 64.8 = 332.34 shield (gist a-type) (heat)
scimitar 4xa = 254 + 64.8 = 318.8 shield (pithum a-type)
scimitar 4xa = 298.82 + 64.8 = 363.62 shield (pithum a-type) (heat)

Oneiros 4x1 = 298.66 + 70 = 368.66 armor
Oneiros 4xs = 337.7778 + 70 = 407.7778 armor
Oneiros 4xs = 396.52 + 70 = 466.52 armor (heat)
Oneiros 4x2 = 341.33 + 70 = 411.33 armor
Oneiros 4x2 = 401.5686 + 70 = 471.5686 armor (heat)
Oneiros 4xa = 250.66 + 70 = 320.66 armor (centum)
Oneiros 4xa = 294.9 + 70 = 364.9 armor (centum) (heat)

Logistic drones for bonused ships:

Basilisk / Guardian drones = 36 shield / 35 armor / 17.5 hull
Exequror / Oneiros / Rovida drones = 72 shield / 70 armor / 40 hull
Zarmazd drones = 108 shield / 107 armor / 55.5 hull
All fax machines = 270 shield / 250 armor / 135 hull hp (5x heavy bot II)


Tech 3 cruisers:

Tengu 6xa = 381 shield (pithum a-type)
Tengu 6xa = 476,25 shield (pithum a-type + links, mindlink)
Tengu 6xa = 635 shield (pithum a-type + links, mindlink, heat)
Tengu 6x2 = 255 shield (329 with heat)

Legion 6xa = 376 armor (centum a-type 480 with heat)
Legion 6xa = 470 armor (centum a-type + links, mindlink)
Legion 6xa = 609.73 armor (centum a-type + links, mindlink, heat)
Legion 6x2 = 256 armor (326.81 with heat)

Proteus 6xa = 337.77 armor (corelum a-type)
Proteus 6xa = 424.19 armor (corelum a-type + links, mindlink)
Proteus 6xa = 552.72 armor (corelum a-type + links, mindlink, heat)
Proteus 6x2 = 256 armor


Triglavian logi:

Rodiva 1x2: 346.66hp + 70hp = 416.66hp armor
Rodiva 1x2: 407.84hp + 70hp = 477.84hp armor (heat)
Rodiva 1x2: 416hp + 70hp = 486hp armor (links)
Rodiva 1x2: 495.24hp + 70hp = 565.24hp armor (links, heat)
Rodiva 1x2: 442.55hp + 70hp = 512.55hp armor (links, mindlink)
Rodiva 1x2: 520hp + 70hp = 590hp armor (links, mindlink, heat)

Zarmazd 1x2: 426.66hp + 107hp = 533.66hp armor
Zarmazd 1x2: 501.96hp + 107hp = 607.96hp armor (heat)
Zarmazd 1x2: 512hp + 107hp = 619hp armor (links)
Zarmazd 1x2: 609.52hp + 107hp = 716.52hp armor (links, heat)
Zarmazd 1x2: 544.68hp + 107hp = 651.68hp armor (links, mindlink)
Zarmazd 1x2: 640hp + 107hp = 747hp armor (links, mindlink, heat)


Logistic frigates:

Deacon 1 = 109.57 armor
Deacon 1 = 128.90 armor (heat)
Deacon 1 = 139.03 armor (command destroyer)
Deacon 1 = 163.56 armor (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon 1 = 146.21 armor (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon 1 = 172.01 armor (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon s = 129 armor
Deacon s = 151.76 armor (heat)
Deacon s = 134.34 armor (command destroyer)
Deacon s = 158.05 armor (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon s = 162.47 armor (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon s = 191.14 armor (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon 2 = 125.22 armor
Deacon 2 = 147.31 armor (heat)
Deacon 2 = 149.96 armor (command destroyer)
Deacon 2 = 176.43 armor (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon 2 = 157.70 armor (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon 2 = 185.53 armor (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon c = 144 armor (coreli)
Deacon c = 169.41 armor (coreli) (heat)
Deacon c = 172.46 armor (coreli) (command destroyer)
Deacon c = 202.89 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon c = 181.36 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon c = 213.37 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon b = 157.5 armor (coreli)
Deacon b = 185.29 armor (coreli) (heat)
Deacon b = 188.62 armor (coreli) (command destroyer)
Deacon b = 221.91 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon b = 198.36 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon b = 233.37 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon a = 171 armor (coreli)
Deacon a = 201.18 armor (coreli) (heat)
Deacon a = 204.79 armor (coreli) (command destroyer)
Deacon a = 240.93 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon a = 215.37 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon a = 253.37 armor (coreli) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon c = 156.52 armor (centi)
Deacon c = 184.14 armor (centi) (heat)
Deacon c = 187.45 armor (centi) (command destroyer)
Deacon c = 220.53 armor (centi) (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon c = 197.13 armor (centi) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon c = 231.94 armor (centi) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon b = 170.87 armor (centi)
Deacon b = 201.02 armor (centi) (heat)
Deacon b = 204.63 armor (centi) (command destroyer)
Deacon b = 240.75 armor (centi) (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon b = 215.20 armor (centi) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon b = 253.18 armor (centi) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Deacon a = 183.91 armor (centi)
Deacon a = 216.37 armor (centi) (heat)
Deacon a = 220.26 armor (centi) (command destroyer)
Deacon a = 259.12 armor (centi) (command destroyer, heat)
Deacon a = 231.63 armor (centi) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Deacon a = 272.50 armor (centi) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin 1 = 113 shield
Kirin 1 = 130.38 shield (heat)
Kirin 1 = 135.33 shield (command destroyer)
Kirin 1 = 159.21 shield (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin 1 = 142.31 shield (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin 1 = 167.43 shield (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin s = 73.33 shield
Kirin s = 86.28 shield (heat)
Kirin s = 87.82 shield (command destroyer)
Kirin s = 103.32 shield (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin s = 92.36 shield (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin s = 108.66 shield (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin 2 = 128 shield
Kirin 2 = 147.69 shield (heat)
Kirin 2 = 153.29 shield (command destroyer)
Kirin 2 = 180.35 shield (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin 2 = 161.21 shield (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin 2 = 189.66 shield (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin c = 143.33 shield (gisti)
Kirin c = 168.63 shield (gisti) (heat)
Kirin c = 171.66 shield (gisti) (command destroyer)
Kirin c = 201.95 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin c = 180.52 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin c = 212.38 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin b = 158.89 shield (gisti)
Kirin b = 186.93 shield (gisti) (heat)
Kirin b = 190.29 shield (gisti) (command destroyer)
Kirin b = 223.87 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin b = 200.11 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin b = 235.43 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin a = 170 shield (gisti)
Kirin a = 200 shield (gisti) (heat)
Kirin a = 203.59 shield (gisti) (command destroyer)
Kirin a = 239.52 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin a = 214.11 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin a = 251.89 shield (gisti) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin c = 161 shield (pithi)
Kirin c = 185.77 shield (pithi) (heat)
Kirin c = 192.81 shield (pithi) (command destroyer)
Kirin c = 226.84 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin c = 202.77 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin c = 238.55 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin b = 176 shield (pithi)
Kirin b = 203.08 shield (pithi) (heat)
Kirin b = 210.78 shield (pithi) (command destroyer)
Kirin b = 247.97 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin b = 221.66 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin b = 260.78 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Kirin a = 191 shield (pithi)
Kirin a = 220.38 shield (pithi) (heat)
Kirin a = 228.74 shield (pithi) (command destroyer)
Kirin a = 269.11 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, heat)
Kirin a = 240.55 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, mindlink)
Kirin a = 283.00 shield (pithi) (command destroyer, mindlink, heat)

Thalia 1 = 109.56 armor
Thalia s = 129 armor
Thalia 2 = 125.22 armor
Thalia c = 144 armor (coreli)
Thalia b = 157.5 armor (coreli)
Thalia a = 171 armor (coreli)
Thalia c = 156.52 armor (centi)
Thalia b = 170.86 armor (centi)
Thalia a = 183.91 armor (centi)

scalpel 1 = 113 shield
scalpel s = 73.33 shield
scalpel 2 = 128 shield
scalpel c = 143.33 shield (gisti)
scalpel b = 158.89 shield (gisti)
scalpel a = 147.78 shield (gisti)
scalpel c = 161 shield (pithi)
scalpel b = 176 shield (pithi)
scalpel a = 191 shield (pithi)

Tech one frigates:

Bantam base 1 = 84.75
Bantam base 2 = 96

PS:

Kids, testing this is very difficult when all the kids must “test a titan, sooper dooper or 50000 cheat-stix injected sooper dooper dooper dooper capitals or titan pilots”.

Edit:
Added the new Triglavian logi and the sleeper cruiser values.

Edit 2:
Added Triglavian logi drone values and linked values.


(Fluffy Moe) #2

Don’t forget the new incoming Triglavian Logi, though I don’t know how the whole spool up repair bonus is going to work out in the long run.


(elitatwo) #3

You can be sure that I will find out the values as soon as I can get my hands on them.

Subcapital logi was pretty inspiring, so I took a look at what our more or less beloved fax machines can do and ran some preliminary numbers on the Minokawa:

Fax machine drone bonus for all fax machines using 5x tech 2 heavy logi drones: 270 shield / 250 armor / 135 hull hp.
So basically, if your triage carrier is sending tech 2 heavy logi drones on you, it is comparable to a t2 fit scythe using drones or an Exequror with tech 2 medium remote reps and 5x medium tech2 logi drones.

I had a feeling that bonus is strong.

Capital bling. Maybe someone can help me out with this one. Where can those capital bling mods be found or where to they drop from?

A Minokawa with links (using it’s own link bonus), a mindlink and 3x heated dread guristas (or CONCORD) capital remote shield boosters reps 10.010 hp shield per second and with the heavy logi drones that is a maximum of 10.280hp per second in triage.

Edit:

With the upcoming fax machine changes that values for fax remote reps are no longer valid but I will get you the new values as soon as I have time to validate them.

In the meantime, I have made a LibreOffice Excel sheet but I don’t know where to put it.


(Dirty Camper) #4

Capital faction mods (concord , you get for LP from incursions in the concord lp store)
Pirate from Pirate Capitals or Sotiyos…

Fax 2b+ stationary , cap intensive, higher skillcap , 5mins in triage.Needs a Cap hungry active tank aswell
Logi less intensive , less expensive , sig tanking, fast moving , can be repped by other logi


(elitatwo) #5

Ah! That’s the one I didn’t know. That CONCORD mods come from incursions however I knew.

The values I posted are a for your information thing, nothing more. I did an extensive comparison of tech 1 and 2 modules and made a list of the maximum achievable values which I took from the ships that I fit with something that made sense and can be flown in dangerous environments.
All I have to go on may be the darkness of Singularity but the mechanics are the same and capitals are the norm.
Except for 5 losses in one year of trials I can say that I made it incredible difficult to shoot me down.
Just yesterday morning I was caught by a ham-tengu on a fortizar in my solo Osprey because I wasn’t tethered and the tengu gave up shooting me after 5 minutes of trying.

Edit:

And no carrier or sooper dooper dooper fighters managed to do me harm so far. Where the most popular ones are minmatar and gallente ones.


(elitatwo) #6

Fax machines:

Apostle (2x1+1) =

t1 3.8 (5280)
t1 3.2
t2 3.8 (5775)
t2 3.2
bling 3.3 (5544 shadow serpentis)
bling 2.8 (5544 shadow serpentis)
bling 3.8 (6270 concord)
bling 3.2 (6270 concord)
bling 3.8 (6468 dark blood)
bling 3.2 (6468 dark blood)

no command link (t1) 3.2 (5280)
no command link (t1) 2.7
no command link (t2) 3.2 (5775)
no command link (t2) 2.7
no command link (bling) 2.7 (5544 shadow serpentis)
no command link (bling) 2.3 (5544 shadow serpentis)
no command link (bling) 3.2 (6270 concord)
no command link (bling) 2.7 (6270 concord)
no command link (bling) 3.2 (6468 dark blood)
no command link (bling) 2.7 (6468 dark blood)

command link (t1) 3 (5280)
command link (t1) 2.6
command link (t2) 3 (5775)
command link (t2) 2.6
command link (bling) 2.6 (5544 shadow serpentis)
command link (bling) 2.2 (5544 shadow serpentis)
command link (bling) 3 (6270 concord)
command link (bling) 2.6 (6270 concord)
command link (bling) 3 (6468 dark blood)
command link (bling) 2.6 (6468 dark blood)

Apostle (3x1)

t1 3.8 (5280)
t1 3.2
t2 3.8 (5775)
t2 3.2
bling 3.3 (5544 shadow serpentis)
bling 2.8 (5544 shadow serpentis)
bling 3.8 (6270 concord)
bling 3.2 (6270 concord)
bling 3.8 (6468 dark blood)
bling 3.2 (6468 dark blood)

no command link (t1) 3.2 (5280)
no command link (t1) 2.7
no command link (t2) 3.2 (5775)
no command link (t2) 2.7
no command link (bling) 2.7 (5544 shadow serpentis)
no command link (bling) 2.3 (5544 shadow serpentis)
no command link (bling) 3.2 (6270 concord)
no command link (bling) 2.7 (6270 concord)
no command link (bling) 3.2 (6468 dark blood)
no command link (bling) 2.7 (6468 dark blood)

command link (t1) 3 (5280)
command link (t1) 2.6
command link (t2) 3 (5775)
command link (t2) 2.6
command link (bling) 2.6 (5544 shadow serpentis)
command link (bling) 2.2 (5544 shadow serpentis)
command link (bling) 3 (6270 concord)
command link (bling) 2.6 (6270 concord)
command link (bling) 3 (6468 dark blood)
command link (bling) 2.6 (6468 dark blood)

Minokawa (2x1+1) new

t1 5 (6963) 2785,2
t1 4.3 3238,60
t2 5 (7590) 3036
t2 4.3 3530,23
bling 4.3 (7260 true sansha) 3376,74
bling 3.7 (7260 true sansha) 3924,32
bling 5 (8250 concord) 3300
bling 4.3 (8250 concord) 3837,209
bling 5 (8580 Dread Guristas) 3432
bling 4.3 (8580 Dread Guristas) 3990,69

no command link (t1) 4.2 (6963) 3315,71
no command link (t1) 3.6 3868,33
no command link (t2) 4.2 (7590) 3600
no command link (t2) 3.6 4200
no command link (bling) 3.6 (7260 true sansha) 4033,33
no command link (bling) 3.1 (7260 true sansha) 4683,87
no command link (bling) 4.2 (8250 concord) 3928,5
no command link (bling) 3.6 (8250 concord) 4583,33
no command link (bling) 4.2 (8580 Dread Guristas) 4085,71
no command link (bling) 3.6 (8580 Dread Guristas) 4766,66

command link (t1) 4 (6963)
command link (t1) 3.4
command link (t2) 4 (7590)
command link (t2) 3.4
command link (bling) 3.5 (7260 true sansha)
command link (bling) 3 (7260 true sansha)
command link (bling) 4 (8250 concord)
command link (bling) 3.4 (8250 concord)
command link (bling) 4 (8580 Dread Guristas)
command link (bling) 3.4 (8580 Dread Guristas)

Minokawa (3x1) new

t1 5 (6963)
t1 4.3
t2 5 (7590)
t2 4.3
bling 4.3 (7260 true sansha)
bling 3.7 (7260 true sansha)
bling 5 (8250 concord)
bling 4.3 (8250 concord)
bling 5 (8580 Dread Guristas)
bling 4.3 (8580 Dread Guristas)

no command link (t1) 4.2 (6963)
no command link (t1) 3.6
no command link (t2) 4.2 (7590)
no command link (t2) 3.6
no command link (bling) 3.6 (7260 true sansha)
no command link (bling) 3.1 (7260 true sansha)
no command link (bling) 4.2 (8250 concord)
no command link (bling) 3.6 (8250 concord)
no command link (bling) 4.2 (8580 Dread Guristas)
no command link (bling) 3.6 (8580 Dread Guristas)

command link (t1) 4 (6963)
command link (t1) 3.4
command link (t2) 4 (7590)
command link (t2) 3.4
command link (bling) 3.5 (7260 true sansha)
command link (bling) 3 (7260 true sansha)
command link (bling) 4 (8250 concord)
command link (bling) 3.4 (8250 concord)
command link (bling) 4 (8580 Dread Guristas)
command link (bling) 3.4 (8580 Dread Guristas)

cap (1x1)

t1 1452 (7260) 5
t1 1688,37 (7260) 4.3
t2 1716 (8580) 5
t2 1995,3488 (8580) 4.3
concord 1716 (8580) 5
concord 1995,3488 (8580) 4.3


(elitatwo) #7

Thank you everyone for you undying appreciation, I’ll promise to never do it again.


(elitatwo) #8

Added new values for pentagon logi and OMG-BBQ-WTF logi.


(elitatwo) #9
  • Added values for out of the box fitted t1 cruiser logi and corrected some typos which nobody else noticed.

  • Added values for t2 logi frigates with and without links from a command destroyer

  • For some odd reason is the small storyline remote shield booster very balanced…

The values for the scalpel and Thalia are the very same as for the Deacon and Kirin and I chose command destroyers as link boat because they wouldn’t want to wait for a command ship to follow them 5 days later.

  • It only took 15 months to compile this, why would you appreciate the work amirite