On the space issue, again, probably the thing with the balance sheet. Why raise lifestock when you can cram more workforce (and ships and cargo) into them and make them all eat Quafe and ration bars? They want more delicious food, they can pay premium for genuine beef from district Wanyu in some world in Black Rise.
Yet at some point it becomes more cost effective for the corporation to grow the majority of their own foodstuffs in space than to import them, or the ingredients for their own products, from deep gravity wells. Wouldnât you agree?
Assuming that they want to expand space more with the materials harvested from asteroid fields for the farms instead of, you know, using that same amount of materials to build a f-ing Titan.
Itâs not exactly a sane place.
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As an aside, Iâve started reading your posts in the same synthesized voice used by Stephen Hawking. Thanks to your suggestion in this thread. Your IGS Cast
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Experience improved!
thanks for the replies everybody.
thanks to readin around now i am aware there are trillion people and there may be classs that are fed stuff like soilent green.
the question with proteins for me is does bacteria production- i drink such ashake once in the while -, hemp or insects (lets say flour worm) not outweight retrieval cost of dead bodies? (perhaps a clone body can be 3d printed in a deadly bacteria soup)
second nuts it is a medical fact that nuts reduce heart problem through a recent meta study. i doubt high class would ignore that.
You still need biomass. Bacteria doesnât grow without carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen. Life does not spontaneously generate without the basic atom constituents that form chains of proteins. You canât print a clone body without biomass.
Also, dead bodies arenât that hard to find. Stations will be filled with them because people die all the time. Remember that much of the space stations you are going to dock into in the game are essentially megalopolises. They could jettison them all into space (and expect someone waiting outside to snatch them and sell to someone else), cremate them (and render them useless for much of anything) or just dump them into a processor and get biomass out of the deal.
Retrieval in space is more of an opportunistic activity. Wait for stuff to blow up, go right on in for salvage and dead bodies.
Which is exactly what I was saying. Bodies in space would get picked up by salvagers while theyâre scooping up wreckage. Once you have the bodies you can either jettison them back into space or you sell them to the highest bidder. Whatâs more likely in the Eve universe?
Beef. So: corned beef, steaks, hamburgers, beef jerky must be a real possibility.
You forgot âbeefâ. As in itâs not really beef but it sure tastes like one. Lab-grown or just flavoured protein paste/patty.
I didnât outright deny that there would be body salvaging for food purposes, I just contest the scale and how widespread the practice would be. My problem, I guess, is that CCP has envisioned this world that could only exist in a post-scarcity, or at least near post-scarcity, economy. Yet for Eve to be Eve, there must be scarcity. This results in mixed messages, at least to me, if you know what youâre looking for.
If we pretend that the Eve universe is post-scarcity Iâm sure that even then youâll find cases where people are salvaging human bodies for food purposes, though probably a fair amount less often.
Hereâs the thing though. Even after making leaps and bounds in energy generation, there is still a raw materials bottleneck. Especially when we take into account of all the stuff thatâs getting destroyed due to one space violence nonsense or another.
Eve is far from a post-scarcity setting.
Oh yes, I know. The devs set it up that way on purpose.
Even with asteroid mining alone there wouldnât be enough materials for what the capsuleers go through. While Eve has moon mining there isnât any wholesale dismantling of planets, rocky and gas giants, nor is starlifting practiced. Given the amounts of energy the empires have available to them itâs amazing that the last two options arenât being pursued. Starlifiting alone would supply millions of earthâs volumes worth of usable metals.
//added while @Elmund_Egivand was writing his reply
Thereâs also the fact that they have fusion and they use it to tranmutate matter into antimatter, as a means to store energy! That alone tells you something. Not only is energy so cheap and abundant they can store it ineffeciently as antimatter to have the advantage of a very concentrated energy source, but they can transmutate matterâŚinto any other form they wish and they have no problem doing so.
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However, in-game reasons require scarcity.
You can chalk that up to the Empires not having figured out how to Starlift and the unwillingness to Planet-Crack due to the potential outrage that will generate. And the fact that all the people in power are nutcases who when given the choice between filling the cold void of space with more Leberstraum or build more giant guns in space, they keep picking the giant guns in space. And then losing them. Then replacing them again. And again. And again.
Perhaps, but weâve figured it out, several methods in fact, but merely lack the political or economic incentive to do so. But yes, it could still be that way in our future thousands of years from now as well. It could also be the same in the Eve-verse.
You must consider too the issue with finding the raw materials for the transmutation, and the fact that the people of Eve are not right in the head.
Tell me about it. 
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starlifting might need hard ai and transcendence which is what the capsuleres could achieve yet might need hard ai base.
singularity level one is imho a society that can decide to what kind of society it wants to be (memetical,structural and execution wise) and restructure like a human can restructure clothe for daily purpose.
recource war point to pre scarity then again planetary managment reveals that proteins from bacteria is used for explosives. terraforming except caldari in the beginning iâm a bit at loss.
perhaps itâs a mix of pretranscendence stopped calcified and given a feeding hierarchy (see firefly or cyberpunkish settings)
Clones,
even though capsuleer bodies have a lot of non-organic items in them even before implantsâŚbiomass from human material makes it easier and more compatible to make clones with
I believe that Iâve already conceded that point, good sir. 