i did get smartbombed once or twice. nothing needs to be done against it, because you don’t need to die to them. they’re definitely avoidable.
Yep, that lowsec.
Near enough completely empty. There’s absolutely no activity there at all:
Near enough completely empty. There’s absolutely no structures at risk (and hell, no structures even in lowsec):
So little that the loss per percent of population isn’t that far behind nullsec this year.
Near enough completely empty. There’s absolutely no way that the percent of population per system is the second highest in the game:
Near enough completely empty. There’s absolutely no way that two of the most active pvp alliances in the game are lowsec alliances.
Near enough completely empty. There’s absolutely no way that the Alliance Tournament the last two years has been won by lowsec active alliances (and one being almost exclusively lowsec focused).
Near enough completely empty. There’s absolutely no way that Dotlan stats on violence often have lowsec systems with the most kills:
That screenshot from just now.
Yeah, that lowsec. Near enough completely empty that all the players actually playing there are just having fun regardless of people who think they don’t exist.
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If you cant do the time don’t commit the crime. You’re a lowsec badass , own it
I must say I love the way the post has been received.
Just a few points to clarify my intentions.
A lot of pvpers like me doesn’t have problems having a sec status under -5. Which I gain mostly fighting neutrals in FW plexes playing factional.
Is it a criminal action, having a “fair” fight in a FW plex ? Most people goes to a plex to have a fight. Gate Camping absolutly it is a criminal action and should be punished IMO.
This post is to suggest a change to allow people in hig sec come to low sec to have some extra fun without loosing his sec status or his faction standings. It is not about if population is stable or not.
I think players always find his way to solve the problems that the game mechanics produce. That doesn’t means there is not a better mechanic available. Actually CCP is changing stuff constantly.
Please If you don not live in low sec or high sec, please consideer carefully if this discussion really matters to your gameplay before posting.
Ye. Camping low sec gates is like fishing in the kid trout pond. It is both shameful and rewarding.
You can only mock them disdainfully if you have a nicely earned killmail to link.
Spotted the guy who died to a lowsec gatecamp.
Everyone dies to them. You can’t be vigilant or worry about it all the time. Sometimes you get smart bombed warping to an out gate in the very system you’re fighting in. Happens.
I know that MANY new players complain about getting killed trying to enter lowsec. Not even their experiencing their first fight before dying in the many ways you can in lowsec. That’s not exactly emergent gameplay. Gatecamping itself, like I’ve said before, though potentially rewarding, is not the best example of pvp in Eve. Gate campers themselves offer poor pvp when they are actively sought out. Most play to avoid confrontations and just setup on their gate or station when the trouble is gone.
Speaking for myself, I have 170k bm’s on every gate of the warzone, from every side. I take a glance on Intel channels and if there isn’t any intel i avoid often camped gates on the weekend or peak hours. I see Eve benefit more with such a change and wouldn’t grieve to see gate camping almost completely unviable.
Also. Dying on a gate your first jump and venture into low is also a weak first impression on many players. I have lost count how many times I’ve read in militia chat about that and high sec station camping by bugging navy npc’s.
Yes it’s so empty near enough all the action you mentioned is by faction warfare people (on alts mainly) or guys camping the pipes going to null or shortcuts between high so they can gank for isk. The rest of lowsec is dead, null is more full then most of lowsec from what i’ve seen.
As for your spurious comment about the alliance tournament. I never said bad asses mofo didn’t live out there, just not that many people do.
No you didn’t. You claimed it was near enough empty.
It clearly isn’t, by several metrics.
As for FW action. Where’s FW? And they are far from all alts. Where’s your evidence of that stupid statement?
Wow there’s something wrong with you kidda. You keep adding 2+2 together and making 4598731. I suggest you see a doctor over that as there’s no need to be so angry and demanding when your wrong.
Lol. The only thing we have here is our written word.
How does taking you at your word make 2+2 = blah, blah, blah?
It’s all just what you’ve written. You are just wrong and haven’t put any counter argument other than, “yeah but you need to see a doctor”
Great discussion skills.
I can’t speak for the southern warzone. Even on the weekends (on my rare visits down there) many systems are empty, even in main pipeline lanes.
As for Placid, Citadel, Essence, and Black Rise. It is one of the only places where you can log in for half an hour and leave with something done. The best, and most vicious, part of lowsec. So many pvp try hards, high-grade pods, bling fits, fleet and small gang for days and solo* content.
*what begins as a 1v1 is not guaranteed to end 1v1
i died to a gatecamp and they gave me 30 million isk for being a noob and not a jerk.
New players aren’t victims. You can’t define what is, and isn’t, a good impression on them.
Go back to WoW.
Being a snobby cry-baby asking for a handout doesn’t make you the lawful authority on statistics. You might want to look at a dictionary or learn how to read, as you might be able to see the word ‘many’ and not ‘all’, as you seem to interpret it.
Do you think every ‘customer’ to gate campers receives reimbursement? You can go back to your little bridge that is not big enough to shelter your ego.
Look mate i’m not here to play internet forums with you. It is a fact lowsec is dead and most systems are completely empty. Pretty much the only time you ever seen anyone is in FW systems or on the pipes between highsec or out to null.
It’s not a fact at all.
It’s an opinion and opinions are fine, but they aren’t facts by any means.
I’m not here to play forum games either. You’ve made a couple of claims that have been demonstrated to be wrong, so you are just jumping to attacks and self-defence.
The population density of lowsec is second only to highsec and way in front of nullsec. That is fact. The data doesn’t lie.
But opinions are all fine. You’re totally entitled to one, but if you put incorrect information as fact (and claim it is fact) and it isn’t, don’t be surprised if you are challenged on it’s validity. That’s not an attack on you personally. Just put a valid argument, rather than resorting to “yeah, but…you need a doctor”. Children can discuss things better then that and this is a forum. It’s for discussion.
No, genius, that’s not what it says. that’s what you want to read, because you declare everyone a victim by default. New players who go to lowsec often enough get advice, get recruited, and or get money. When people quit because of normal gameplay, then it’s not a game for them.
Your carebear opinion doesn’t ■■■■■■■ matter in light of the reality of the situation, and you projecting your ego issues onto me changes nothing about it.
All this stuff make me think, what would happens if the turrets of the gates to empire get hardened so gate camping would not be possible there, but in other gates of the system.
I really doens’t matter players that do gatecamps permanently like those live in Tama.
IMO they create zero content for the rest of players.
What do you think guys ?
tbh i started eve with mission running and got 9.9 plus with the minmatar faction. only doing pvp for years though with way over 20k kills. not a single lowsec kill though. don’t wanna ■■■■ up my standings. so the OP has some merit.
but then again most people that would have interest in pvp and not want to fiddle with their standings would go to npc 0.0 like i did.
lol. You still don’t understand that it’s not about painting someone a victim of circumstances towards that which the consensus of people say is a stupid and lazy way of enjoying Eve that puts a very - not imagined - restriction into the very place people think is dying. If you can’t get in, how do you experience it? What does it have to do with being a carebear? That is your own opinion speaking in that you somehow visualize gatecamping as some form of elite way of playing eve that must be protected because it offers Eve so much dynamic opportunity, but the opposite is true. You can be contrary all you want, but your logic is flawed because you think it adds something to Eve where it just takes more opportunity away. It adds wasted effort and wasted time over more opportunity for targets and discovery. You try to sound smart but your own bias blinds YOU. Open your eyes.