Main War declaration thread

Your proposal was torn to pieces and completely wrecked.
Everyone could see the bias and advantage you where trying to maintain, not to mention its self-contradicting issues and mechanics flaws.

Thats why it died in the nest, and didnt even hatch, let alone fly.

Yeah. Itā€™s kinda of tough for them to balance. Just shooting them because you think they make a good target and will make for some interesting fights is suppose to be a valid reason in a sandbox game. And while the defender does have a dozen strategies for evading the war, that isnā€™t very satisfying for you, or them if they choose to dissolve their group or play something else.

Best would be to stratify things and let people who donā€™t want wars play the game in the way without them, and hopefully that will increase the chance you get some content out of the remaining pool that do opt-in to wars. Of course, in reality you will still often get blueballed, but at least no one will feel like they canā€™t play the game as there will a reason that group opened themselves up to wars, and a clear method to stop them from happening.

Itā€™s definitely isnā€™t an easy problem to solve when there is such diversity in what people want out of this game.

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Thatā€™s because they know you best them :wink:

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You are being dishonestā€¦ the last report was exactly the contraryā€¦ cherry picking data is dishonest AFā€¦

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Since youā€™re putting so much effort in it, I might be interested to give you the highseccerā€™s view on it so it stands a better chance. Make sure to share it somewhere accessible (dunno what wardec discord is nor how to read a document there).

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cough CCP did it cough

HS Mass wardeccers and HS suicide gankers claiming to design a whole HS expansion on their own.

You actually believe this?

The irony is astounding.

Maybe you shouldnt try to do it ALONE and instead listen to the rest?

Despite what you might be thinking, and besides what seems to be my ā€œsideā€, in the discord Iā€™m the guy who also tries to take the side of the bears. Sometimes. Iā€™d love to, though, but in a private conversation. I can mail you an invite to our private discord, but Iā€™m running out of time today so weā€™d have to do that some other time. : )

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Omg, you have no shame.

Seriously, this is really funny and utterly a blatant lie.

Sent ā€¦ but you have to log in to get the link! : D

I agree. I also think the proposal you write up has some stuff that actually improve the things that people who want to dodge wardecs can do and not just a removal of the mechanic.

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VS

This basically means ā€œThough Im clearly biased in public and on the discord, Im actually not, if you talk to me in private.ā€

Dafuq?

can i get that too please?

Iā€™m not only not done, the first draft is only a quarter of whatā€™s needed and that already needs to be read through by Pedro. Iā€™m not sharing anything until itā€™s done, and you can rest assured that I am thorough and proper.

I invited Yiole, because she can be a raging carebear : - ) and it doesnā€™t actually hurt having a private talk about things. : )

The Wardec Discord project run by @Toxic_Yaken is open to everyone. You can join here:

People have put various ideas in the #wardec-documents channel and anyone can add something of their own.

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yeh the discord is what i was after sorry sol :stuck_out_tongue:

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Why not do it here on these boards so all can see and contribute?

Just watched the CCP Vegas video again.

Context was wars.
Corp activity mentioned.
Player retention mentioned.

Not recently. Times change.

Okay then.

I like your idea of contracts for war dec. I also like the idea for bounties and killrights which Pedro mentioned. This could all be tied into a major revamp for high sec conflict and would work much better than exclusively tying it to structures. There are many instances like your first example where one corp just wants to get rid of their mining competition, who may not own a structure.

The only concern I have at this time is, your system seems very difficult for the ā€œhunterā€ merc. I used to be a hunter back in 2012-13 and found it very fun and challenging. As a single merc, the potential list of contracts that would be available may only be a few if any, so what do you do in the meantime? In theory I may go days or weeks without a contract and my biggest concern is a single merc would be completely shut out with your proposal.

How would you ensure the mega merc corps do not gobble up every contract, leaving nothing for small corps or single mercs?

Also, you should totally send your idea to every CSM member to try and create as much discussion as possible.

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Itā€™s pretty difficult to predict what actually will happen with that system. Maybe corps will also prefer local mercs if you go to a region and advertise. I would not worry too much about specific roles. If it has value as a service to other players it will probably work.

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