Mechanic or gameplay that is considered unfair gaming

Council Of Stellar Management Assembly Hall
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How am I trolling? Is it trolling because I’m disagreeing with you?

You claim that room is 100% death. However, as other posters have already pointed out, people have made out of that room alive.

Furthermore, CCP was up front the abyss would be challenging. You are doing some of the hardest PvE content out there, with the most reward and a large dose of RNG.

So either build in that you’re gonna lose sometimes and factor that in to your projections or run lower tiers for lower reward but lower risk.

Also you are 100% wrong that you can sue CCP for this LOL.

Please bro, just go back to krabbing.

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On sisi mate…read my message over three months on sisi…then i went to tranq…and boom day two i get blapped

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are you talking about T6 dark sites? cause if you are not its not the same…T6 gamma you do it in a vagabond

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Welcome to RNG :smiley:

You realize there are different fits right? You sure don’t sound knowledgeable :smiley:

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Quite honestly I don’t know which type of sites he runs. All I know is he’s running in 500m or so Jackdaws, and every so often he loses a pair. But he does very well in the meantime.

Didn’t twig that you were running for three months on Sisi. No need to get your knickers in a twist! Sometimes thems the breaks.

Like I said, I feel like a 5bn fit is far too much. Even if you drop to T5s with a fit the tenth the price, you’ll have more success and more profit. If you’re into the challenge of the T6s, then you have the risk factor to deal with.

But, in any event, if you say you can break that room in a different fit then I’d say this is mechanic working as intended. Sorry (not sorry).

Edit: I’m assuming you’ve seen and tested the Gustav Manfred fit that runs 90% of the Dark rooms for 65m isk? No longer viable? Damn shame if so, but shows what you can do with some planned death rather than all-out bling

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I totally understand what you are saying…and it makes sense…but me?? i have to beat the best if there is the chance to win not when its designed to 100% loose sometimes…and to beat the best it takes the best with the most expensive fits in the T6 dark sites…i don t want to loose sometimes… i want to defeat the best of the best without loss…but with CCP s design in those sites its not possible and that is why i consider it unfair gaming

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That is of course your choice… But that’s you applying your own philosophy onto the game, rather than playing the game as it stands.

There will be a way of beating those sites I’m sure.

In any event, you may say that it’s unfair and lose billions. Others will play the odds and make billions. It’s all our own choice how we play Eve!

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I have beaten those sites over and over again…but every now and again there is one spawn that will give you no chance to fight and that annoys me because it shouldn t be like that. That means that when they programmed those sites they wrote the code to just kill you…and its not just that…as i mentioned in the initial post there are other mechanics intentionally modified to work dirty against you like the weapon cycle going for a quarter more before you can shoot again etc etc…everybody seems to be missing my point here…these are cheat mechanics made intentionally to contribute to your loss…its like…me designing a car race game where i put in the code so your car skids off the road when it shouldn t

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If I’m not mistaken, the spawn RNG depends on the system you are starting your Abyss journey, which one is it?

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Not familiar with the RNG spawn term…what does it mean?

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RNG is the algorithm which defines the spawns, very common technique. If you tell me the system or constellation I may be able to help you.

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You mean the security level system? its a 05 high sec

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I mean the location, it may depend on constellation or even system.

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No, we get your points. We just disagree with your opinion. That’s fine, and allowed.

You call “cheat” a system that is designed so that no one fit can defeat all possible spawns. But nowhere does it say that one fit can defeat all possible spawns. You WANT to defeat all possible spawns, but you can’t, and so are malding as a result. Fair enough!

You have said yourself that a different fit can best this room, so it’s not like it’s unbeatable. It’s just you can’t beat all rooms using one fit. As I said in my first point, this is (most likely) how the T6s were designed.

The module thing is a fundamental part of eve’s 1s tick operation. You can’t get rid of that 1s delay without fundamentally breaking TiDi which is something CCP are working on, but won’t be solved any time soon. You can indeed, however, time your deactivation so that you don’t get over-run, but that takes a huge amount of concentration, innate timing and is practically impossible while dual boxing. You just have to send a de-cycle command over 1s before the cycle is due to finish…!

Let me run your example in a different context. I love the Zealot. I want to fly the Zealot and defeat all cruisers. I build a 5bn Isk Zealot fit. I then proceed to die to an Arty Loki. Do I:

a. Complain that CCP has cheated and made it so that my pulse zealot is unfairly compromised, and used dirty mechanics to make the Loki win? Or

b. Review my fit and circumstances of my loss, and adjust my strategy according to what I have learned?

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Sorry mate i can t tell you the exact location

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Understood, but then I can’t help you. Good luck!

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No problem…but you can give me an example in any case

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Arf arf

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You do if that loki shot you from 300 km away with 3000 dps and its exactly whats happening with the mechanics that i said they work dirty against you…I wouldn t complain if the cycle of the guns stopped where it should

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Because thats what champions do…win against the most difficult, toughest encounters every time,but not against the impossible.