Moderation of the Forums

[Scarlet_Starfire]

This threads still going and it’s over a month old, not bad for a thread where even the title is suggestive of breaking the rules.

Personally, I don’t see the point in this thread, the arguments are just likely to go around in circles.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

I troll to get interaction. Like Foggy and I above. I don’t hate Foggy, I just agree sometimes and sometimes not. If you cant take the heat, get outta the kitchen. Like many of us trolls here, we post to instigate a response. Good or bad. If its good, the trolls pitch in to help. And as someone else pointed out, (sry, I forgot who) if it’s a whine/complaint, it gets squashed. Ask, don’t yell…

[Scarlet_Starfire]

Don’t you mean you troll to get a reaction. That’s usually what trolls are after.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

@Scarlet_Starfire

Personally, I don’t see the point in this thread, the arguments are just likely to go around in circles.

In the age of chaos, what else better is there to do?

[Foggy_Bernstein]

@Archer_en_Tilavine

You’ve got the trolls that make people laugh and are a welcomed part of the community ( #TeamTroll ) whether or not they actually contribute (and they almost always do), and you’ve got the trolls that are annoying to no one’s enjoyment but their own,

Here’s the thing. The trolls that make YOU laugh might not be the trolls that make ME laugh. The trolls that might be annoying to YOU might not be the trolls that are annoying to ME.

You want moderation that agrees with your narrative of who should and who should not be allowed to post. Not people whose narrative you disagree with. Just you. Everything you post is all about you.

No, Archer. There’s no room for subjective moderation. A rule for one is a rule for all. Period.

End of story.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

Actually I look for good ideas that CCP will never use. That was till limiting recourses. That was in the forums before I ever heard anything from CCP on the matter. But I didnt follow the links enough back then and could have missed something.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

And I forgot, I give a lot of isk to new players who post on the forums asking why I lost my stuff so they can restart as opposed to those who post with rage. They I give nothing, not even advice because they will never listen…

Edit; with another acct

[Scarlet_Starfire]

@DeMichael_Crimson

A post that’s hidden on these forums can still be viewed which means it’s still active on these forums. A post that’s hidden and then removed is no longer active on these forums.

That’s it, bottom line.

Actually a hidden post can’t be read, unless the viewer wishes to read it. If the viewer doesn’t like the content then they shouldn’t have viewed it.

[MB_ThePhotographer]

I read all hidden posts. You just never know what pearls of wisdom you can find!

[Scarlet_Starfire]

I tend to read some of them, on some rare occasions I do wonder why they were hidden.

[Archer_en_Tilavine]

Oh, Foggy…

Keep both classes of trolls, get rid of the objectively cancerous. End of story.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Foggy_Bernstein

There’s no room for subjective moderation. A rule for one is a rule for all. Period.

Exactly, but those posting who oppose it do so because they would no longer be able to freely insult, demean, ridicule, flame, swear and attack others.

[Archer_en_Tilavine]

Establishing and following objective criteria (a “rubric”) for identifying and acting on cancerous posts/posters and permitting some degree of roughhousing are not mutually exclusive.

[Scarlet_Starfire]

This thread gets old fairly fast.

You’re right they should stick to the rules. This thread should be locked and any subsequent thread on this subject should also be locked.

[Foggy_Bernstein]

@Scarlet_Starfire

This thread gets old fairly fast.

Who’s holding the gun to your head and forcing you to read it?

I’m going to guess no one.

[Destiny_Corrupted]

@Foggy_Bernstein

@MB_ThePhotographer

That’s a pretty handy alt that follows you you around and gives you likes.

Look. It gave you one too.

And you liked it. I know you did. You feel warm and loved now.

Would you like to feel that way all the time? I can make that happen for you. Mail me in game for a price quote.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . how much?

[Ramona_McCandless]

Hmmm

I dont oppose it.

But I DO agree often with Nicky S.

I can see how that may not sit well with folk who measure others by keeping track of which posts a person likes when deciding how they feel about that person.

[Avaelica_Kuershin]

@DeMichael_Crimson

@Foggy_Bernstein

There’s no room for subjective moderation. A rule for one is a rule for all. Period.

Exactly, but those posting who oppose it do so because they would no longer be able to freely insult, demean, ridicule, flame, swear and attack others

I can imagine scenarios where a person may think they’ve been insulted, demeaned and ridiculed because they can’t take criticism of a post.

New poster posts what they think is a truly brilliant idea only to be gently told that it’s an idea that’s come up before, been debated, had it’s flaws enumerated, and consigned to the trash.

Some people don’t react at all well to that and I am glad ISD and CCP give benefit of doubt.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

OK new forum alt, I’m not opposed to having all the forum rules enforced equally among all posters.

As for my past transgressions, I was heavily moderated for them while others who do it much more frequently aren’t.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Avaelica_Kuershin

I can imagine scenarios where a person may think they’ve been insulted, demeaned and ridiculed because they can’t take criticism of a post.

I can imagine scenarios where some posters will say anything to keep the current status-quo. Doesn’t matter anyway, CCP clearly stated what’s expected from forum users.

Forum Rules:

The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community.

To maintain order and a sense of community, all users should read and follow this policy. By using the EVE Online forums and participating in discussion there, users are affirming their willingness to comply with these terms.

This policy has been created to provide you with information about what you can expect as a forum user, what is expected of you, and to answer some questions relating to forum moderation that you may have during your use of the EVE Online forums.

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