I got my info from for the plex from ingame data shown on EVE talks. I already don’t play with most of my accounts and when I do play, its to get my PAPS for the alliance I am in. If I did not have to worry about the PAPs I would not even be playing at all. PVP and PVE is the most boring thing to do in EVE. I would much rather mine 10 hours a day as appose to sitting on a camp or roam for 10 hours. I been playing EVE so long I know whats is fun for me and what is not fun for me. The big alliance drama is boring, blowing ships up is boring (in EVE at least), Its been 8 months now and the DEVS are still lying to people and not saying anything at all. i am not the only one who thinks CCP did the ore change to rip people off for plex revenue. CCP vreated this mess and the longer they go on without telling people what is really going on the more thing that may not be true, will be believed more and more. Dont get mad at me for saying these things because its all over the net. CCP is the ones to blame, guys like CCP Rattati has done more fuel this than anyone. Thats the last man that CCP should ever send out to speak to the puplic.
Its absolutely breath taking graphics and this is what EVE should have grown into. ■■■■ EVE, its time for EVE II.
SC is as much MMO as is Elite Dangerous.
Main feature of EVE is that we can actually get a lot of people involved. Going to 5v5 or whatever SC is capable of would make EVE pointless. SC’s only accomplishment is scamming millions of people into thinking that their promises of huge battles are anything but pure BS.
That’s perfectly understandable and I agree with you. I just meant to point out that game companies are still corporations and need to pay attention to their bottom line. However, perhaps speculation on whether or not a given action is motivated by the bottom line is in poor taste due to the detrimental effects of the spread of misinformation as you pointed out. And just as an aside, don’t beat yourself up too much for having a different opinion in the past than you do now, it’s part of how you formed your current one after all.
Dear CCP,
Pochven exists. Its the region you just spent a year plus creating. That is all.
Tell me, how did things work out in M2 a few weeks ago? CCP scammed people with scarcity to drive plex sales. So whats your point again?
My point is that effectively SC is a single player game and not competition nor anything to strive for for EVE.
When SC manages the M2 like fight better then you can complain about EVE. Until then it’s on paspi leadership ignoring reality. CCP has done miracles to get EVE working with insane amount of players but even miracles have limits.
Hi,
SC?
It´s the greatest fraud on crowdfounding ever!
In the beginning of the cf campain, we gave a lot of money, because we wanted a new “wing commander”
All we have gotten was a nice graphics demo, nothing more.
I prefer EVE, with all it s server problems, with all the bugs and with the stupid decisions from CCP.
I sure was playing that single player game with others online. Yea the server only goes to 50 now but give it time, some folks are not smart enough to figure out early access and will ■■■■■ about everything. I thought SC was sold as a game that would not be done for 20 years? If so, that is no different than EVE. SC is like EVE in the early days and CCP should have been making EVE as life like as SC is. You can hate on it if you want but SC and even Elite Dangerous are about to give EVE a run for its money and CCP is not helping its public perception at all. Before scarcity and ore redistribution, I NEVER had one complaint about EVE and would have never considered SC and ED as contenders to EVE online but the disrespect by CCP has changed my mind for ever. I now tell people to never play EVE because the game DEV treat their player base with disrespect and would rather you quit the game than stop hurting people. 9 months of suffering because of the ore changes created a lot of resentment and animosity for thousands of people and if you think I’m not the only miner that feels this way, just take a look around this forums. Does it seem filled with people happy about playing the game EVE or is it full of people begging the DEVS to stop hurting them? You are on the wrong side because if enough people walk away, even you wont be able to play EVE anymore.
Don’t forget Gold plated ammo for extra damage for $$$$
Is that something new CCP is selling?
50 people is what a normal shooter has and yet we don’t call those MMOs. SC and Elite are effectively single player games where you can go online and play a few v few fight. EVE is actually a multiplayer experience.
I have never said that CCP is not doing badly with changes in EVE. They are obviously terrible at it as they have been hiring people from the small gang elite pvp crowd who are under some sort of mass delusion that the rest of us play only to provide easy targets for them to gank.
That’s why CCP is nerfing the hell out of 0.0 while adding more and more stuff that you can do in perfect safety. Hilmar is no better because he played with the same deluded crowd in wormholes and now he thinks that everything else is there to provide targets and fun for his wormhole escapades.
In the end it is this massive delusion that majority of players are here to pay subscription and then provide easy ganking targets to the glorious small gang elite pvp crowd that is killing EVE. Every change that they have done in the past 2 years has been designed to make ganking easier (at least in the short term) with the result that there is nothing left in space. Nobody is insane enough to undock rorquals, mine a few mil of ore and then get ganked. Hard to buy new rorquals with that kind of math.
Same was with blackout where elite pvp crowd hailed it as a new coming of Jesus only to turn around 2-3 weeks later and cry about only pvp fleets in space (so much for wanting elite pvp ).
Similar issue was with nerfing cynos that allowed defence fleets to respond, the only result was fewer ships in space which again means fewer targets. And so on and so forth.
By making the game more and more tedious the only result will be that it pushes for more and more botting because normal humans simply are never going to waste their time on boring as hell gameplay. Alternatively they will all switch to the “correct” type of PvE that just keeps getting buffed.
However, all these issues are separate from technical capabilities of EVE which are in a class of its own. You should not be mixing them up.
No… lol at least not planned I hope !
Do not feed them with ideas!!!
I absolutely should be mixing them! EVE should have taken what it had and became what SC or even ED is becoming. We should be walking in stations and on planets. We should be fighting in stations and on planets. EVE has what neither SC or ED has and that is a player seeded economy and EVE can get more than 50 people on a server. I am not here to sell SC to the players, I want the DEVS to use their imaginations and give us what SC and ED has given their players. You tell me that EVE would not be bad ass if it took the player seeded economy, the fact that EVE can get more than 50 on a server and mix that with what SC and ED has done wouldn’t make EVE the game to play for the next 50 years? Actually being able to manually land a ship at a station, walk in a station, fly to and from planets, walk and drive on planets, and actually fly the ship you own would be amazing with a player seeded economy and be able to fly with more than 50 people. Just think of the possibility’s and player created content. Just think of all the ground vehicles and ships the game could have. So much content that it would take miners and builders years to seed the markets. I started off with pong for my first video game and, as most my age on here will tell you, I have seen video games became almost life like graphically. It breaks my heart to see SC and ED deliver on things CCP should have done 5 years ago and the best CCP can give us is ship skins, clothing for your toon, one bad nerf after another, and a forums full of customers pissed or quiting because of the DEVS . CCP should dump the DEVS they got now and hire the DEVS that SC and ED has.
CCP, Its not to late to undo the animosity and resentment that the current DEVS have created with your customers, the longer you wait, the deeper the animosity and resentment grows. Don’t let them destroy our sandbox!
@Pith_Hurdaa maybe they fly best available ships, because they feel themselves very, very safe, they have “stored for later” safety … let’s remove hi - sec … or any other safety … npc station is indestructible safety, injected skill book is safe, skill points are safe, big friendly corp is safety, yea, let’s limit it to 20 members … 0 in local is safety, or when only corp/alliance members are there … plex vault is safety, wallet balance is not lootable …
… in this game … plenty of safety … if you know, how to use it … not everyone knows
Dear Players,
in this monthly report we want to inform you, that jita was “sucked out” from game by unknown cosmic anomaly.
Sorry for any inconvenience … what about that ?
This is typical magical thinking. CCP is making mistakes so your suggestion is that they should do something completely different, up the complexity level by an order of magnitude, and then everything will be better? Oh, and how would CCP ignoring the game we’re all paying to play lead to less resentment if the devs went off to work on something completely different? Your logic does not track at all.
If you want to play SC or ED, go play them. CCP is not going to turn EVE into either of those games.
This is probably because large battles often do not generate Killmails so there is no data stored to be included on the killdump
I am suggesting EVE 2, the forums is for new ideas. If you don’t like mine than add some of your own.
Ok, at this point you must be trolling me intentionally.
You do realise that it is not possible to have twitch gameplay of FPS/SC/ED and have many people in the fight at the same time. How exciting do you think a shooter would be at 0.1 fps? You would be crying like a little kid about how it is unplayable.
All your ideas are pure fantasy along the lines of, if I only was omnipotent I could get things sorted exactly as I want it. Great idea, just fails on that first part “omnipotent”. Nobody on this planet can do twitch gameplay with large numbers of people, which is why all those games are limited to tiny numbers. Yes, SC scammed a bunch of people with fairy tales about huge numbers and twitch gameplay but that’s more an indication of good PR on their side and complete lack of understanding technology on the “customer/scammed” side.
CCP should stop catering to small gang elite pvp crowd even if Hilmar is a proud member and actually balance the game for their players. Paradoxically, that would also provide more fun and targets for those same small gang elite pvpers (they would still have to actually work for their kills instead of getting them served on a silver platter).