And how is it any different than if 4 players gangbang the single pilot exactly?
The fact that its 1 person with 4 ships or 4 people with 1 ship each the net end result is the same, the target getting destroyed without any hope of fighting back
At this point it just appears that your complaint is actually that you don’t want to die to anything but a 1v1 scenario, which EVE is not, unless you count the proving grounds
Not seeing how this is an issue that is specifically linked to multiboxing
That you don’t know the answer to this is a classic example of how horribly broken EVE is right down to its very core.
It horrifies me that anyone should have to spend even a second explaining to you how that is any different.
Yep.
Entirely from multiboxing. I can afford it, and I enjoy it.
I’m not morally superior, I’m just tired of the crying about other people doing more than you can.
If you can’t afford multiple accounts, or multiple computers, or a decent internet connection, or living anywhere but the slums mentioned above, that’s on you.
I’m not sorry for doing well in life, and I’m not sorry for doing well in a video game.
Fact is, this game is so old that you could run multiple accounts on a 10 year old laptop with no problems. I did it before I cashed out my bitcoin and stocks.
Everyone on here whining about people doing better than them are utilizing a luxury of playing a video game and being invested. If you were as badly off as you seem to think, a video game would be the last thing you’d be worrying about.
It’s about perspective. Your life is not ruined because of what other people do. Your perspective is off if you think someone playing multiple accounts is taking away from your enjoyment of this game.
You need to rethink life.
It’s difficult to see the advantage it gives. They are literally throwing away ships.
I’m aware of the wealth benefits of multi-boxing. It’s basically selling plexing with more steps.
But wealth doesn’t make you a winner, clearly. ALOD’s is a thing.
Agree 100%.
If I were to take my many accounts into pvp, I’d lose a hell of a lot of ships.
Outside of fleet operations on single characters, I’ve gained no meaningful pvp experience.
I have a lot of wealth, but couldn’t beat 5 caracals by myself, most likely.
So thats a no then
If you’re not going to actually explain your point you very clearly don’t have one and this entire thread can be classified as a rant
As it stands there is no difference from the targets point of view if they get killed by 1 person with 4 ships than 4 people with 1 ship each, you’re free to disagree as is the right of free speech, and we are free to point out that you’re wrong, you don’t have to accept that fact but that doesn’t change the facts
Good for you.
No one has to agree with you though. According to this poll a lot of people don’t.
Still, you are superior to those silly peasant people from the slums, right?
wow.
You’re like some kind of walking troll meme x1000 aren’t you?
You lied.
So, would I have to feel the need myself to pull 4 alts on the guy, juste to be able compete ?
I mean, I could bring 4 friends also, but then so could he … and so on so forth …
Or as a new player, I could just log off this piece of ■■■■ game that simply makes it freegame to times X power for one individual.
Yea, nothing wrong here at all.
Yes it does make you a winner at : the Making wealth game.
You’re right. I did lie. I’m still engaging you.
It doesn’t matter one bit if people agree with me. This game allows multiboxing, and somewhat encourages it.
As for being superior to peasants. I don’t think so. I was lucky enough to make the right choices and investments.
If you live in a slum, and can’t afford anything to enhance your video game experience, you probably should focus more on gaining irl financial security to get out of the slums. You probably shouldn’t be playing video games.
Sometimes identifying the need to explain something so obvious and so apparent and so simple is more than enough to firmly convince you that there would no point in doing so.
This is one of those times.
How am I this entire thread all of a sudden?
False.
… and ‘we’ are free to point out that you are. Is your ‘we’ bigger than mine? What we is this you speak of? You believe you represent the masses? Apparently not according to this poll.
Your opinion is not a fact unless you’re some kind of deranged egomaniac. I appreciate that you may well be.
This poll kinda challenges your ‘facts’ however and provides good evidence that they are actually only your opinions. This poll literally tells you people are concerned by things you claim they are not, to the point that you believe saying they are not is fact even in the face of a poll proving you wrong …
Curious indeed.
And is that so important?
I can also use alts to make more gate jumps than other people.
And that means i win the ‘make lots of jumps’ game.
Yay? 
Such is the nature of EVE, its mostly about who can bring the most ships to a fight, it always has been
Again, it wouldn’t matter if it was a single person with 4 accounts or 4 people with 1 account each, 4 ships shooting you is 4 ships, your issue isn’t actually with multiboxing at all lol
To be fair, this poll says that people and their forum alts are concerned by multi-boxing…
Sure, but it doesn’t conclude that people and their forum alts are not concerned by multiboxing.
That very easily could have been the top result. More easily, in fact, as surely the multiboxers would have more accounts with which to vote?
I’m pretty sure if the tables were turned and ‘not concerned’ came out top in every category the multiboxers would be happily brandishing the validity of the poll in the face of anyone who dared challenge the result.
Clearly there’s undeniably an issue.
Tbh, if I wanted to, I could log all my alts in and skew this poll to hell. Like some others have done.
There’s really not a lot of people interested or concerned with multiboxing. A small fraction of the player base.
Ccp isn’t going to stop multiboxing. Every month from me alone, they make $525 usd. Not including plex for skins and extractors.
If you say so, i mean, we all know that isn’t the case here but you are free to think whatever helps you feel better about your “argument”
Because the point you’re trying to make is that multiboxing is in some way bad for the game, the same as this thread, you both have the same incorrect opinion of what is actually wrong
Well you’re entitled to that opinion sadly
Actually the poll agrees with me, when you discount the obvious alts voting “very concerned” you’ll find that the bulk of the votes fall in to the not concerned categories, the numbers are right there at the top of the thread
Well the numbers don’t lie 
The above already answers this incorrect belief you have, although i suspect that much like Flat Earthers and people who believe 5G is some sort of weapons system to wipe out huge chunks of the population, your reasoning is actually not grounded in reality
In this scenario my issue would entirely be with multiboxing.
I get that you don’t understand why, we’ve established that.
However you’re not in a position to speak for everyone and how they would feel in scenarios that you invent. How do you feel entitled to dictate that? If you only allow for how you would feel in any given scenario, what’s the point in putting the scenario out there for others to comment on?
Each individual players reaction to that scenario is subjective. There isn’t a rule. There’s no fact.
You don’t seriously talk to people on the forums with the belief that an issue raised by multiple people isn’t actually an issue to anyone do you?
Or that because I am currently the one not conforming to your ‘facts’ that I am just some kind of easily dismissed crazy outlier person?
That’s a cheap win.
I mean, that’s what you’re doing with the whole 5g / flat Earth nonsense, but come on … that is the lowest form of forum ‘debate’ and makes life far too easy for you. Why not just talk to yourself, reply to yourself and tell yourself how right you are? Why do you even ‘discuss’ anything with anyone else?
‘Everyone who doesn’t share my view of the world is insane’
Really, is that how you roll?
Except your scenario is 1 ship getting killed by 4 ships, multiboxed or not the outcome doesn’t change, it literally makes no difference if its 4 people or a single person, because your complaint would then change to “4 people killed me this is unfair CCP, please limit the number of ships that can shoot me because 4 players in a group have an unfair advantage over me on my own”
You’re free to argue against this but your posts here very clearly show this to be the case when you won;t actually point out how its actually any different
Its hard for anyone to understand your “logic” when you’re not actually explaining it, i can’t be expected to understand how a mind that thinks there is a difference works when the actual normal baseline doesn’t
See the issue is when people point out that your scenario is infact incorrect yet you refuse to accept it or provide evidence to show otherwise
Show me how getting killed by 4 people is any different than getting killed by 4 ships flown by the same person, go on i’ll wait
In both scenarios a larger group of ships destroyed a lone single ship, there isn’t actually any difference except the difference your mind seems to manufacture
I do when those “multiple people” account for such a tiny percentage that its actually an insignificant issue, this poll has very clearly shown that with alts being used to bump the “very concerned” numbers to artificially inflate them, given that the playercount has remained steady for a very long time proves that this isn’t driving people away in any numbers that would actually cause alarm
5 people out of 5 million is still “multiple people” but is also such a tiny percentage as to be considered noise
Considering your argument, your lack of facts, the poll skewed by very very obvious alts and straight up common sense and basic logic disagreeing then yes i would call you one of the outliers, i’ve been playing EVE since 2004, and this is the first time i’ve ever seen someone try to complain that multiboxing was the issue you’re trying to make it out to be, 1 person out of the literal thousands i’ve interacted with both online and in person during the last 16 and a half years, use that to grant yourself a little perspective
its about the only group i can think of that would share your ability to put 1 and 1 together and make 703,456
Hardly, but people who are trying to use an argument with no facts and a poll skewed with very clearly invalid votes does indicate a small issue
That’s your scenario, not mine - are you confused?
The outcome is irrelevant - this is part of you not understanding.
It very much does.
I would never make that complaint - again, this is you failing to understand.
I would be fine with this and have nothing to complain about. You are way off base.
There’s nothing to argue about, I know what I think. The argument is that my view differs from yours, not that I don’t even know what my own view is.
Is this again ‘cheap win’ logic in which you assume anyone expressing something other than your own view is insane?
What a wonderfully comfortable world you must live in with no one sane to challenge you.
Unless you have shifted the goal posts, we were talking about how people feel about being killed by actual players vs multiboxers - not about the number of ships involved or about the loss of a ship.
The number is irrelevant, the ship loss is irrelevant, as is the ratio of enemy ships to the victim.
You have drifted waaaaay off topic.
Apart from the guy who made this thread, and the other guy you were arguing with, and the other one, and all the people that made ‘very concerned’ the top answer in every category and all the other people that have ever made the same thread throughout EVE history.
Still just me? Just 1 person?
C’mon, this is just flat out lies now, do you have zero integrity?
Or your ability to take 703,456 people and turn them into 1 person perhaps?
See?
Cmon now, you’re making a complete fool of yourself.
Are you just a low quality troll? Starting to think so.
There’s nothing intelligent for me to work with here. Why don’t you just post a ‘You Crazy’ GIF and have done with it instead of pretending to talk to people?
What a waste of time ‘talking’ to you.
Okay, I’ve seen a few comments now that makes me wonder if everyone is on the same page. So for clarification:
Fleet of Real Players > Multiboxer > Solo Player
*Note that not all counter play options are created equal. For example, counter play options that require an unreasonable amount of effort, or that suck all of the fun out of the game, do not make for compelling arguments. The end result should be game play that is fun and rewarding for everyone. And if a counter play option fails to achieve that, then it’s not a very good argument for keeping the status quo.
**Note that another counter argument to the idea that multiboxing is unfair is that almost everyone can do it -which turns multiboxing into a personal choice. I broke down my reasoning in another thread, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that around 70% of Eve players already posses the hardware needed to quad box. Of course, this ignores all the players who can’t afford a system/internet connection capable of multiboxing. So there is an argument to be made against this line of reasoning.
Edit: It does look like Cypherous is arguing that dying to a multiboxer isn’t any different than dying to a bunch of people ganging up on you. Which is a good point. Eve isn’t exactly a symmetrical game in that it doesn’t ensure balanced encounters. In order to survive and thrive, you have to learn how to survive when the odds are stacked against you, and how to stack the odds in your favor as much and as often as possible.