Multiboxing Poll

You’re intentionally failing to see the point.
Someone with 25 accounts trying to pvp has to split their attention between 25 accounts, which makes their fleet slow to respond to an evolving situation.
Sure, in some situations they can be an overwhelming force. 10 individual players can win, with relatively minimal loss.

As for pve multiboxing.
If you’re mining for resources in null, you likely have a buyback program that pays a specific amount for ore or ice. You’re not in competition.
If you’re in highsec, you might have competition. However, in my situation, all the ore I mine in highsec goes straight to my characters in null. The ore doesn’t hit the market, therefore I am not competition.
Many people do the same as I do. Thus your claim of unfair advantage and cheating is a false equivalent.

Then there’s the early point that some people are poor and have ■■■■ lives, so they think anyone that can afford to multibox is cheating.
Screw that. If your life sucks that much, get off the video game and fix your life.
Nobody makes you poor but you.

Lol majority of Very Concerned across the board, yet majority votes No Character Limit…

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Tune that ridiculous 25 account number down to the count of 3 or 4, and you have a realistic and recurrent pvp situation where a 4 v 1 occurs, and to which the outcome is 99.999% predictable in the multiboxer’s favour.

At least in pvp.

The real problem herein lies.

You think that the adrenalin rush over pushing 4-5 buttons over 3 split screens is a strong argument ?

It’s not, it takes less than 5 seconds to do, and with a completely cool head, by which time the poor sod you dogpiled your ■■■■ on is already down half armor …

And most multiboxers also never forget to leave that self-congratulatory “GF” in local after, quite a mind-blowing sight of self-important debauchery…

Show that to a new player nowadays, he’ll just run for the hills imo.

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Can you share some examples?

Not allowed to link killmails on here, you know that.

Besides, you also know that these occurrences happen all the time, think we were born yesterday ?

This is wrong, but nice excuse.

No they don’t. You only think they do because of confirmation bias.

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Mostly for the purposes of mocking/extracting salt. Killboards get linked everynow and then without the need to delete them.

How about a name? Can you do that much?

Because it’s genuinely not that common. The last multi-boxer i faced was over a year ago (tristan gang and griffins) and he had to bail out with only one ship left.

I said it’s ‘easy to think that …’ and what else I said was important to put that into context.

It’s tedious to reply to someone who doesn’t even comprehend the nature of that which they comment on. If you’re just picking out random sentences you don’t really understand in an ironically toxic attempt to make me look more toxic than you … well … it’s all a bit childish really isn’t it?

I predicted that you would wish to continue doing this. Seems I was correct.

See?

Failed.

Not interested in conversing with trolls. Shoo.

Then that’s a problem.

When 1 player can become an ‘overwhelming force’ by running more accounts than another player, the game is broken.

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1 player is very rarely an overwhelming force. Very few people, who have multiple accounts, would consider them the I win button for pvp.
You’ve been told over and over again that it is difficult to control multiple accounts in a pvp engagement.
It takes skill, a cool head, and fast reflexes.
Those same people would likely be able to rotflstomp you in a fps.

Aah you’re one of those who thinks I have to be 'told’ over and over until I agree with your opinion? How does that work, is it some kind of egomaniac thing?

If I tell you over and over will you agree with me? No. See how that works?

Cute.

No.

If they had 25 soldiers to my one I’m sure they would, and still have the nerve to call it skill like you do with multiboxers in EVE.

I admire you for trying but you won’t change my mind on multiboxing in EVE by pretending it’s really hard or takes lots of skill to 25 vs 1 someone, nor would difficulty or skill justify it even if I believed those things played a more important role than sheer numbers, which I do not.

If you really want to try this hard to demonstrate that running 25 accounts to win is really more trouble than it’s worth - then explain why anyone does it and try to prove that they gain nothing from it …

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Yeah you were still saying it though. Kinda like, ‘I’m not racist but…’.

It just begged the question, if everyone here was banned from other games, what did you get banned for?

And yes i replied. That’s some crystal ball you’ve got there… What else can you make me do?

Overwhelming forces exist outside of multi-boxing. Bigger ships, more friends, higher tech level. Multi-boxing is probably the least pervasive.

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Nothing at all like that. Your comprehension level is beneath my bar.

This conversation is pointless, I don’t consider you worth talking to.

I repeat:

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Ok could name off my head at least a few well known multiboxing mains that Ive seen on a regular basis over the years:

Bullet Anarchy
The-Explorer
AnotherBriscou
Nephilim Xeno
FirstCommander Riker
Cadillac Duvalle Godzilla
Maglor Shaye
alexsashka
Alexandr Zaitcev
Dplexy McSlaveFace
PettyFairy
Dato Koppla
Jones Otsada
Kathicon

I could go on …

All those ranging from 1 to 3 alts to aid them in pvp, not all the time, but most the time.

You can also count all the multiboxed FW mission and plexing farming alts, take a trip around Bleak Lands, and find out for yourself, ie: Dramiel mission fleets, Jackdaw mission fleets, Coercer plexing fleets, Catalyst plexing fleets, Atron, Tristan, Punisher plexing fleets …

Also Corps and alliances that have been seen multiboxing to even the odds out in their favors in battle are:

Siege Green
Dock Workers
SnuffedOut (multiboxed caps ftw)
UshraKhan
Local is Primary
The Congregation

And probably others if you look hard enough …

I mean i could research more extensively and pull you an entire paper who on each alliance and corps in the region does it, but that would take considerable work, and unless you’d pay to see that kind of report, well …

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Shaming and finger-pointing on specific characters and groups for this discussion’s polemic about multiboxing, Im pretty sure the killmail rule applies.

I’ll tell you Ive not spent the last 6+ years in the FW warzone to be told I just “think they do” by some smartarsed nobody.

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You do realise that it is totally possible to multibox in online casinos with several accounts on one pokertable?

You do realize that comparison cant apply well with Eve as you’d have to compare it to having multiple hands in the same one poker table, hence giving more chances of a good hand, more card combos and so an unfair advantage to your peers …

More like almost never.

One of them sacrifices their alts to get a fight. But the alt does no damage.

Another demonstrates the difficulty of multi-boxing pvp with heavy losses on both characters.

So when you said ‘99.999%’ chance of success…

You’re right.
You’re either too poor to multibox and gain relevant experience, or you feign some sort of moral superiority.
Either way, you have zero experience with it, so trying to explain to you how it works it a waste of time.
I’m busy pulling in 5-6 billion isk a day, so I won’t be wasting anymore time with you.
Have fun being poor and morally superior in a video game.

When i said 99.999% chance of success, the context was more like 4-3v1, did you miss that part out deliberately ? Should we start discussing what makes a good/bad multiboxing comp … ? Wouldn’t that be going off-topic just a little ?

Most of these people have tackle alts yes, they also gatecamp with neuting, fastlock, or repping alts.

Serving to the actual point of this discussion being that: mutliboxing brings an unfair advantage as one real player in regards to another one real player.

So whichever way one player chooses to use that advantage, or how well he’s able to use it as that is something that one can learn over time, it’s irrelevant and off-topic.

Multiboxing isn’t just pvp also, surely you know about this also, right ? Where much less attention is required, as I mentioned in my post about farming army of alts, miners, ratters, whatever you like …

It is a huge problem for the game, and always has been.

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You don’t need to explain anything. I get how it works. That isn’t my issue with it.

Says the person who says …

… hilarious.

For someone accusing others of acting superior you sure like to act superior.

Congratulations on having more space wealth in a space game than other people in a space game I guess? Cookie? (probably entirely down to multibxoing too, the irony).

Winning at life right there.

:rofl: