1st:
11:45 PM 12/26/2017
Ore Point of Sale.txt
Tolle 37m > Everyshore
Aydoteaux 1j 19.9m
Derririntel 4j 9m + 7 + 6 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 3
Agal 5j 32m + 32 + 30 + 24 + 19 + 3 + 2 +
Cat 5j 44m + 36 + 14 + 11 +
Vale 6j 28m + 8 +
Chelien 8j 5m
Vaurent 8j 122m + 27 + 14 +
Costolle 9j 20m + 1 +
Hek 12j 113m +
Nakugard 13j 21m
Perimeter 13j 252m + 41m + 3m + 2m +
Mitsolen 16j 38m+ 25+ 13+ 13+ 13 + 11+ 10+ 10+
Outuni 17j 52m + 12 + 12
Wuos 21j 9m+
2nd
7:35 PM 12/28/2017
My EVE-Trader Tools and Analysis 171228w5 Th 2020.txt
I only use the EVE API from other programs like EVE-marketdata.com
and market.fozzwork.co.uk,
etc,
so I didn’t put this in the
Third Party Developer’s Forum
since I do not make use of the EVE API (or CREST or ESI) for my own work output yet.
Since I also do not have access to the other EVE API data from the output of those other sites, I do not include it in the Third Party Developer’s Forum and I don’t plan to have it in there until I do use it or use more of it.
The potential is still there for it, it’s just that there is not concrete use of it at this time.
I also didn’t put it in the
Player Features & Ideas forums
since, I don’t suggest ideas of features to be implemented and/or integrated into EVE Online
as of yet, although the potential may also exist or develop for it in the future.
I put it in the
My EVE forum
because it is
The forum category for discussion and sharing of player made EVE videos, guides, resources
and more.
I didn’t put it in the Market Discussions
since it is for discussion of everything going on with the market and
ingame economy.
It is more about the procedure I use as a guide to solve some Industry and Trading problems than the market and economy at this time, although data may be extracted from it to publish in that forum later on.
I can see why it would be related to market value changes in Ore and Ice, and how it could apply to that forum.
However, I am not doing this yet.
I am doing analysis of a few things so that I can sell my Ore and Ice at the best place, in
the least number of jumps.
If I am not careful, I may have to go back and forth for many extra jumps to get the best
deals, and in doing so, I may lose ISK per hours and per jumps value due to the extra time
added while going back and forth.
I’m currently designing a
- Point of Sale map including
- market price demand and
- location of stocks for pickup and
- plot hauling schedule.
Some of the ships at my disposition at this time are:
1 Porpoise
and many Miasmos.
The Porpoise can haul around 60k^m3 of Ore,
and the Miasmos vary depending on the trained level.
Miasmos can also be used by Alpha pilot though, so that is a big plus.
I believe the low-end volume is around 40k^m3 or 34k^m3.
The data from the Ore Point of Sale file is for Koy Artwik only, and other pilots had more
Ore and Ice.
That data was from Contract trading from an Alpha pilot who was using an Orca before.
Most of it was transferred to Koy Artwik via contract, 1 per station at a time , which required 1 login
and 1 log off each time, back and forth.
The insurance on the Orca expires in less than 30 days, but more than 20 days, so that may
be an option if done after that period.
Koy Artwik, the current active Porpoise pilot, can also use the Orca.
I do have another hauler or 2, both of which are inactive at this time and so, are Alpha
clones.
One of those 2 cannot use an Orca, and the other also may not be able to.
The first one can however use a Freighter, which may also become an option, although it is
slow.
The second one can fly a Jump Freighter which would require more planning as to jump where,
why and how.
The first data from the Ore Point of Sale file only has:
the amount of Ore and Ice and storage location.
It does not have the best price per ore sorted yet.
Furthermore, I want to get the best price for each Ore and Ice, and their location.
That means that the data in that file has to be further expanded to include the type of Ore
and Ice related to the amounts.
Some of it is also not compressed, which makes it useless or harder to haul until
compressed.
That means that the only destination those Ore and Ice should go is the nearest 0% fee
compression citadel.
Once the price for the Ore and Ice is found, the location of stock pick up should be
included in the equation to find the best possible routes for the products.
This will then lead to the final stage or phase being the hauling schedule, which includes when to
pick up the Ore and Ice, with what ship, which pilot, and where to send what.
Some Ore and Ice may have to be dropped along the way, to be picked by other pilots,
depending on where it is best sold.
Of course, time is also important, and it may be best to sell the Ore and Ice at a lower
price and be done with the trading until a higher worth value arise for the logistic.
This would increase the value of the logistic work.
I can then use the time for other income activity until that income is outdone by the value of the
amount of Ore and Ice and the hauling schedule it takes.
This above analysis took me over 40 minutes to write.
It is not the best final written form.
I can also include diagrams and other charts to keep track of the work and data + Profit.
The whole process started over a longer period of time, which is around 2 to 3 months or so.
Most of the time does not include actual work or used time, and the items remained safely stored on their respective character (here, pod-pilot).
Some of the character changed to Alpha while being Omega at the time of the original Industrial work.
This current post does not include PI, which is not accessible to Alpha pilots.
Mining and Ice Harvesting is accessible to Alpha pilot at this time.
Alpha pilot can trade stored PI, but not Interact with planets.
I am not sure about Customs Office, but it may require Omega clone status, that is however, besides the point.
Values under 1 million ISK are not expanded to simplify processing and since there would be little use to pick them up except to clear up some station data (they would not show with anything in it or the station itself would not show at all since there would be nothing in it.)
That is useful to simplify the Personal Asset inventory, however, it is not what is required to accumulate ISK to cover for 30 days of Omega clone time.
to:
from Vaurent (different # of Jumps):
Tolle 37m > Everyshore
#3 Tolle 111x Blue Ice 26m > Everyshore (Estimated value Down -11m)
Aydoteaux 1j 19.9m
#3 Aydoteaux 87x Blue Ice 20m
Derririntel 4j 9m + 7 + 6 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 3
#3 Derririntel
180x Compressed Jaspet 9m
- 155x Compressed Radiant Hemorphite 7m
- 139x Compressed Hedbergite 6m
- 116x Compressed Vitric Hedbergite 5m
- 120x Compressed Pristine Jaspet 5m
- 87x Compressed Pure Jaspet 3m
- 74x Compressed Vivid Hemorphite 3m
Agal 5j 32m + 32 + 30 + 24 + 19 + 3 + 2 +
#5 Agal
172x Clear Icicle 33m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 172x Clear Icicle 33m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 161x Clear Icicle 31m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 94x Compressed Blue Ice 25m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 104x Clear Icicle 20m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 1,557x Compressed Massive Scordite 3m
- 9x Compressed Clear Icicle 2m +
Cat 5j 44m + 36 + 14 + 11 +
#2 Cat
6,926x Compressed Plagioclase 44m
- 2,771,389x Veldspar 36m
- 247,330x Azure Plagioclase 14m
- 159,676x Omber 11m +
Vale 6j 28m + 8 +
#4 Vale
4,415x Compressed Plagioclase 28m
- 189x Compressed Pristine Jaspet 8m +
#1 Chelien 8j 24x Blue Ice 5m
Vaurent 8j 122m + 27 + 14 +
#1 Vaurent
122m
- 4,299x Compressed Plagioclase 27m
- 2,268x Compressed Azure Plagioclase 14m +
Costolle 9j 20m + 1 +
#4 Costolle
37x Glare Crust 21m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 2,498 Hedbergite 1m +
Hek 12j 113m +
#4 Hek 466x Compressed Glacial Mass 118m + (Estimated value went up +5m)
Nakugard 13j 21m
#4 Nakugard 89x Compressed Glacial Mass 22m (Estimated value went up +1m)
Perimeter 13j 252m + 41m + 3m + 2m +
#5 Perimeter
1,077x Compressed White Glaze 261m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 177x Compressed White Glaze 42m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 623 Compressed Solid Pyroxeres 3m
- 406 Compressed Azure Plagioclase 2m +
Mitsolen 16j 38m+ 25+ 13+ 13+ 13 + 11+ 10+ 10+
#6 Mitsolen
19,127x Compressed Condensed Scordite 38m
- 1,363x Compressed Luminous Kernite 24m (Estimated value Down -1m)
- 768x Compressed Kernite 13m
- 6,432x Compressed Scordite 12m (Estimated value Down -1m)
- 183,057x Omber 12m (Estimated value Down -1m)
- 6,914x Compressed Concentrated Veldspar 11m
- 4,910x Compressed Massive Scordite 10m
- 52x White Glaze 10m+
Outuni 17j 52m + 12 + 12
#7 Outuni
267x White Glaze 53m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 54x Compressed White Glaze 13m (Estimated value went up +1m)
- 54x Compressed White Glaze 13m (Estimated value went up +1m)
#7 Wuos 21j 46x White Glaze 9m+
1:06 AM 12/29/2017
To Be Compressed:
-
Blue Ice
from :
Tolle 111x 26m < Everyshore
Aydoteaux 87x 20m < Everyshore
Agal 94x 25m < Genesis
Chelien 24x 5m < Sinq Laison -
Clear Icicle
from :
Agal 172x 33m < Genesis
- 172x 33m
- 161x 31m
- 104x 20m
-
Veldspar
from:
Cat 2,771,389x 36m < Essence -
Azure Plagioclase
from:
Cat 247,330x 14m < Essence -
Omber
from:
Cat + 159,676x 11m +
Mitsolen + 183,057x 12m < The Forge -
Glare Crust
from:
Costolle 37x 21m < Verge Vendor (but low sec) -
Hedbergite
from:
Costolle + 2,498x 1m + < Verge Vendor (but low sec) -
White Glaze
from:
Mitsolen + 52x 10m+
Outuni 267x 52m
Wuos 46x 9m+
To solve this , find the nearest 0% compression Citadel.
There is one in Vaurent.
There is another one in Uphene which is 3 jumps away from Vaurent in Everyshore.
Derririntel is in Essence,
Agal is in Genesis, 5 jumps from Everyshore,
Cat and Vale also in Essence,
Chelien is in Sinq Laison,
Costolle is in Verge Vendor,
Hek and Nakugard are in Metropolis,
Perimeter, Mitsolen,Outuni and Wuos are in The Forge .
The Structure Browser shows data from Regions, Region wide, from within the Region.
It’s good to make a map of the 0% compression Citadel.
From Vaurent:
3j Chelien, Uphene
8j Cat, Derririntel, Tolle
9j Aydoteaux, Vale
11j Hek
12j Costolle, Nakugard
13j Agal
15j Perimeter
18j Mitsolen
19j Outuni
23j Wuos
We can later verify the nearest 0% compression Citadels in those above Regions, and find the nearest route from each point.
It may be worth it to go around those Regions with a fast Leopard and Ascendancy implants to verify those coordinates.
Those Regions are:
- Everyshore, 2. Essence, 3. Genesis, 4. Sinq Laison, 5. Verge Vendor has no Ice, but perhaps it has some 0% compression Citadels, 6. Metropolis, and 7. The Forge, of which there is one in Perimeter.
It may also be worth it to sell some of the already compressed Ore along the way, if the deals are profitable enough for sale there.
It would avoid having to come back twice for nothing while the Ore Hold may have enough space to sell the Compressed Ore at a good price.
Another good parameter to verify for those is the volume, and the ship capacity along with the number of pilots who can warp around those systems.
Not all pilots have to be in the same systems, although that is possible for larger volume.
Pilots can also spread out and, with a decent propulsion module, and enough Capacitor Battery and Cap Regenerator, be able to do some auto-pilot in certain high-sec area, to further save more time and efforts while hauling (privately).
Edit 07:23:
The Ice volume is 1,000 m3 to 1 unit, so 111x Blue ice = 111,000 m3, which, with a Porpoise of 60,000 m3, takes 2 loads.
60 units = 60,000 m3.
111x Compressed Blue Ice will take 100 m3, or 11,000 m3, which fits in one load with 49,000 m3 left out of 60k m3.
1 Porpoise and 1 Miasmos of 40k m3 would load 100k m3 per trip.
2 Miasmos could handle 140k per loads with the Porpoise.
3, 180k m3, and 4, 220k m3, while 5 could handle 260k m3 per fleet trips.
That is over a quarter of a million, which is also more than an Orca, but less than a Freighter.
It’s more than double the speed of the Freighter, except for the loading and unloading speed.
The best method for pickup of the Ore to be Compressed would be at the nearest 0% compression Citadel.
I will start looking at the trade value of the Ore.
Edit 08:03:
Buyer Info:
From EVE-Marketdata.com
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28433®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1)
compressed Blue Ice
Jita 2,000 301,001
2,000x
Yesterday
Now
0.9 The Forge - Jita 406 301,005ISK Station < 2 Minutes Ago
111x + 87x = 198x
Derririntel
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28406®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
2) Compressed Jaspet
0.9 The Forge - Jita 26,965 45,400ISK Solarsystem < 3 Minutes Ago
180x 9m
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28404®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
3) Compressed Radiant Hemorphite
0.9 Sinq Laison - Botane - Citadel 2,184 52,110ISK 1 Jump < 6 Minutes Ago
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 4,993 40,001ISK 1 Jump < 2 Minutes Ago
155x 7m
-
Compressed Hedbergite
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28401®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1.0 Domain - Amarr 5,348 51,300ISK Station < 2 Minutes Ago
139x 6m -
Compressed Vitric Hedbergite
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28402®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 Sinq Laison - Botane - Citadel 2,457 48,010ISK 1 Jump < 3 Minutes Ago
1.0 Domain - Amarr 3,645 46,016ISK Station < 6 Minutes Ago
116x 5m -
Compressed Pristine Jaspet
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28407®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.5 Solitude - Boystin - Citadel 1,564 44,348ISK Station < 3 Minutes Ago
0.9 The Forge - Jita 9,903 42,300ISK Solarsystem < 1 Minute Ago
120x 5m -
Compressed Pure Jaspet
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28408®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 3,984 42,400ISK 1 Jump < 6 Minutes Ago
87x 3m -
Compressed Vivid Hemorphite
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28405®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 1,883 40,000ISK 1 Jump < 6 Minutes Ago
74x 3m -
Compressed Clear Icicle
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28434®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 The Forge - Jita 1,645 285,008ISK Station < 2 Minutes Ago
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28428®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
10) Compressed Massive Scordite
0.7 Derelik - Salashayama 181,997 2,200ISK 3 Jumps < 8 Minutes Ago
0.9 The Forge - Jita 24,453 2,060ISK Station < 4 Minutes Ago
-
Compressed Plagioclase
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28422®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1.0 Domain - Amarr 49,956 6,300ISK Station < 9 Minutes Ago
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 103,254 6,284ISK 1 Jump < 3 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Veldspar
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28432®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 The Forge - Jita 192,399 1,700ISK Station < 7 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Azure Plagioclase
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28421®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 66,501 6,625ISK 1 Jump < 5 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Omber
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28416®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 The Forge - Jita 34,140 11,013ISK Station < 6 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Glare Crust
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28439®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 Sinq Laison - Dodixie 177 575,000ISK Station < 1 Minute Ago
0.9 The Forge - Jita 800 500,000ISK Station < 9 Minutes Ago
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28438®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
16) Compressed Glacial Mass
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 4,899 291,004ISK 1 Jump < 8 Minutes Ago
- Compressed White Glaze
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28444®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 8,600 239,890ISK 1 Jump < 1 Minute Ago
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28425®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
18) Compressed Solid Pyroxeres
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 483,065 5,243ISK 1 Jump < 1 Minute Ago
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28427®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
19) Compressed Condensed Scordite
0.7 Derelik - Salashayama 85,143 2,100ISK 3 Jumps < 7 Minutes Ago
0.5 Genesis - Imya 48,728 2,000ISK Solarsystem < 6 Minutes Ago
0.5 The Citadel - Kulelen 38,267 1,976ISK Region < 3 Minutes Ago
0.9 The Citadel - Sirppala - Citadel 65,552 1,976ISK 10 Jumps < 3 Minutes Ago
1.0 The Forge - Perimeter - Citadel 381,171 1,948ISK 1 Jump < 1 Minute Ago
-
Compressed Luminous Kernite
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28411®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 The Forge - Jita 1,282 18,508ISK Station < 3 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Kernite
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28410®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 The Forge - Jita 19,988 17,398ISK Station < 5 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Scordite
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28429®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.7 Derelik - Salashayama 64,122 2,100ISK 3 Jumps < 9 Minutes Ago
0.9 The Forge - Jita 334,812 2,025ISK Station < 6 Minutes Ago -
Compressed Concentrated Veldspar
https://eve-marketdata.com/price_check.php?type_id=28430®ion_id=&solarsystem_id=&type=buy
0.9 The Forge - Jita 3,389 1,650ISK Region < 6 Minutes Ago
Edit 08:19:
3:06 AM 12/29/2017
Ore Point of Sale 7.txt
Jita
Compressed Blue Ice 198x + (19,800 m3)
Compressed Jaspet 180x 9m (27 m3) Derririntel < Essence 17j
Compressed Pristine Jaspet 120x 5m (18 m3)
Compressed Clear Icicle
Compressed Massive Scordite 1,557x 3m (295.8 m3) Agal < Genesis 19j
Compressed Veldspar
Compressed Omber
Compressed Glare Crust
Compressed Luminous Kernite 1,363x 24m (258.9 m3)Mitsolen < The Forge 4j
Compressed Kernite 768x 13m (145 m3)
Compressed Scordite 6,432x 12.9m
Compressed Concentrated Veldspar 6,914x 11m (1,037.1 m3)
The Forge-Perimeter
Compressed Radiant Hemorphite 155x (133.3 m3) Derririntel < Essence 16j
Compressed Pure Jaspet 87x (13 m3)
Compressed Vivid Hemorphite 74x 3m (63.6 m3)
Compressed Plagioclase 6,926x 44m (1,038.9 m3) Cat < Essence 15j
Compressed Azure Plagioclase 2,268x 14m (340.2 m3) Vaurent < Everyshore 16j
Compressed Glacial Mass
Compressed White Glaze 466x 118m (46,600 m3) Hek < Metropolis 19j
Compressed Solid Pyroxeres
Compressed Condensed Scordite +3 others 19,127 38m (3,634.1 m3) Mitsolen < The Forge 4j
Sinq Laison-Botane
Compressed Radiant Hemorphite 155x 7m (133.3 m3) Derririntel < Essence 4j
Compressed Vitric Hedbergite 116x 5m (54.4 m3)
Domain-Amarr
Compressed Hedbergite 139x 6m (65.3 m3) Derririntel < Essence 18j
Compressed Vitric Hedbergite 116x 5m (54.4 m3)
Compressed Plagioclase 6,926x 44m (1,038.9 m3) Cat < Essence 17j
Solitude - Boystin
Compressed Pristine Jaspet 120x 5m (18 m3) Derririntel < Essence 18j
Compressed Pristine Jaspet 187x 8m (28.3 m3) Vale < Essence 20j
Derelik - Salashayama
Compressed Massive Scordite 4,910 10m (932.9 m3) Mitsolen < The Forge 35j
Compressed Condensed Scordite +3 others
Compressed Scordite
Sinq Laison - Dodixie
Compressed Glare Crust
Also, I add a note here that I have an active pilot who can Process or Refine Kernite , Scordite and Veldspar at level 5.
However, I now read that:
https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Reprocessing
"
Better processing can be found in player-owned Upwell structures. Citadels and Engineering Complexes have base rates of 50%, the Athanor refinery has a base rate of 52%, and the Tatara refinery has a base rate of 54%. These percentages can be increased up to 4% through the use of rigging in high-security space, more in low-security space, and even more in null-security space (including wormholes).
"
I still have a POS Control Tower and can install a Reprocessing Array.
However, it is not in Null-sec.
Edit 08:56:
I also don’t have those Implants:
Implants
Furthermore, for pilots looking to get their reprocessing yield even higher, they may wish to look into the Zainou ‘Beancounter’ Reprocessing RX series implants. These Implants are slot 8 Skill Hardwirings found in the market under Resource Processing Implants. They come in 3 varieties RX-801 (1%), RX-802 (2%) and RX-804 (4%) to provide an expensive but possibly worthwhile investment that will bring a pilot closer to a maximum effective efficiency in their station or POS of choice.
