Alt-tabbing is just as bad. I know what AFK means, bud.
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Donât worry, the human dictionary is available 24/7.
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So that was a throw away rant not related to the OP then?
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You seem to not understand correlation between not paying attention and being away from the keyboard. Please update your dictionary chip before coming here pretending you know what youâre talking about.
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He was not paying attention, perhaps you could suggest he buy another screen, that would be my advice.
Is the OP a female player, how do you know their name is Karen?
PS was fun watching Destiny typing here for a bit then deciding not to post, must have been another emotional response.
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Dracvlad, please.
You are embarrassing yourself.
Letâs sit down, ok?
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That made me LOL, nice one.
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You really need to go outside and touch grass, lad. Youâre embarrasing yourself now.
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You sure you want that �
Nah, was just pulling your leg a little. Dunno, but I just find simplifications to explain behaviour kinda meh, especially when it plays to stereotypes. I expect my explanation will be wasted, but I can always hopeâŚ
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For good or ill, ganking is part of the game. CCP has decided that bad emotional responses are just as good for EVE as good ones, and theyâve also decided the economy needs as most destruction as they can manage.
Combat in EVE is, overall, clunky, awkward, slow to find, quick to finish, and not overly rewarding except in certain specific circumstances. As a result, thereâs not as much of it as there should be in a space game featuring PvP. So CCP has a very broad acceptance standard for where and how PvP should happen. As far as theyâre concerned, ganking by whatever method (whether single ship or multbox) is just fine.
Players have tried to alter CCPâs stance on it for 2 decades, itâs not likely to change. The best you can do is remain aware of the risks and how to reduce them. Youâre newly back so you were likely doing something you felt is kinda relaxing and low risk, when along comes some gank squad.
Well, thatâs irritating, but itâs basically your wake-up call. Itâs a reminder that even though things may appear to be going smoothly in EVE, crap happens. Anywhere, any time. For many, thatâs part of the attraction.
A few standard precautions and a certain amount of attention (ie., not watching some other screen for 10 minutes before coming back to EVE) are enough to enable most people to go years in high sec without getting ganked.
Google for âEVE Online how do I avoid ganksâ and check some videos or links like the following:
Hope things go better in the future, good luck!
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everybody here seems to agree that i diserve it, and that the mecanic must remain for the good of destroying more ships and for the economy, i see. iâll harden up and swallow it then and be more aware next time. not sure iâll buy back that mining barge and will find another activity to make isk tho or will join a fleet to mine, thanks for the reality shot. felt good to vomit my frustration a bit though.
production/destruction delta skyrocketed after the two âCrimeWatchâ phases (which drastically nerfed various forms of non-consensual PvP in high-sec) in 2012/2014, from a stable 1.5 growth factor to something like 3-4 (and growing)
how is there inflation if thatâs true then i donât get it. If more is produced than destroy there should even be deflation ?
I donât think you deserve it, in reality if you had been paying attention it is highly unlikely that you would have escaped in any case, though it does depend on who the ganker was. One trick is to make red any gankers that you become aware of. Pick a system that is not on a pipe to mine in, so you can check on Zkill people in system, though if it is a heavily used system it gets a bit much. People will say that you should be aligned, but that is not the easiest thing to do when mining, but if you set up bookmarks around the belt and align to them while mining than great, the issue is that you lose a lot of cycles with that if you misjudge it and it takes a lot of effort.
I would not trust certain statements about the impact of crimewatch changes. They did remove some exploitable mechanics that enabled people to trick people into very one sided 1v1âs by playing with jet cans, they will complain that they was removed, when in fact they just became suspect and if they stayed there they would get PvP, but not on their terms.
I donât recall it being 2012 to 2014 when it was really difficult to make profit, but it certainly was the case later.
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Thereâs a difference between thinking you deserved a specific result, versus recognizing what is the reality of the game whether we agree with it or not. âCoulda woulda shouldaâ counts for nothing in EVE, all that matters is the steps you take and your awareness of the situation and how you choose to deal with it.
Youâre responding here to a point made by Destiny Corrupted. The problem is, whereas Destiny is quite knowledgeable about many aspects of the game, when it comes to supporting their chosen viewpoint, Destiny simply makes up whatever âfactsâ conveniently do so, tells long rambling stories as âevidenceâ without a shred of proof, and basically is as unreliable a source of actual factual information as can be found anywhere.
The production/destruction trendlines actually narrowed after Crimewatch, and player count and player activity overall went up in the game. Crimewatch was one of the best steps CCP took towards reducing the damage of the space-vultures, but they didnât quite complete it, didnât quite get it right, and they didnât follow it up. Thatâs the story of CCPâs development process.
If youâre interested in actual facts as opposed to biased, made-up nonsense:
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EVE doesnât have a true fiat currency, so it gets a bit complicated. ISK is more like a resource that gets mined instead of actual âmoney,â and in that regard things do in fact get inflated; the more of everything gets produced, the more you need to produce to generate the same amount of relative wealth. ISK isnât pegged to anything, and the rate of generation for it can grow as quick (or even quicker) than other resources. Thatâs why despite the glut of low-end PvE garbage, the ISK âpriceâ of many things has risen dramatically.
If you consider PLEX to be EVEâs âtrueâ currency, then the economy is indeed deflationary, since PLEX becomes relatively more valuable as more stuff gets produced. Hence why a monthâs worth of PLEX is now around 3 billion ISK, but was as low as 30-40 million ISK back in the game time code trading days.
You donât deserve it any more or less than anyone else. Your losses are a function of your skill and preparedness. However, all losses are indeed great for the economy and great for world-building, even though you wonât be able to convince the vast majority of EVEâs carebear âmine in peace after a hard day of workâ mentality boomers of this fundamental truth.
If you want to have fun in EVE, you have to try your best to avoid losses, but be welcoming of them when they happen. Like when I take a loss, my friends link it and make fun of me and donât let me live it down for like a whole week while I rage and threaten to kill them IRL, as revenge for me talking â â â â to them about how bad they are at the game etc.
Best advice I can honestly give you is to stop mining. Itâs a dead-end activity, and youâll never meet people who will help you grow as a player; just other miserable miners who will reinforce your negative feelings in a circle-jerk of misery (they arenât hard to spotâjust look for the ones constantly complaining about other players and forum members, toxicity, âPKs,â âgriefer sociopaths,â etc etc).
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Just a comment on this:
This is wrong like much of Destinyâs comments, if he means hisec mining then he would have a point albeit without the rant that went with it, it is not massively profitable, but mining is much more than that, the best mining is moon mining decent moons in nullsec, and by its very nature means you have to meet and work with others to do this. There are also things like gas mining in nullsec and WHâs and ice mining in low sec and nullsec can be pretty lucrative. I did not bother mining ice in hisec, I mined it in nullsec and lowsec and never lost a ship.
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Yes, Dracvlad, we know you are a miner, you do not have to tell us.
I did most things in Eve.
Not everything is about you, sir.