It is a simplistic thing to think that, I mean no disrespect but when you rebalance areas of the game you always have an impact, when you introduce new things you have an impact. CCP is not that good at seeing the impact of their decisions imo of course. The objective for me despite what is said about my suggestions is never to curtail ganking. Because of this they come after me harder than anyone else because that is more of a threat to their own comfort and ease of play then those that want to end ganking.
You are being unfair, he is offering his view and is prepared to listen, discuss and be persuaded, he is currently open minded about this which is perfectly fine and when you discuss such things you will often get the other persons viewpoint and try to accommodate it in your thinking.
Like you I value having to be on guard and take care in Eve, even though it can be as annoying as hell and a real time sink. I was not joking about it taking me about four months to move my stuff through the ganker hotspots, and I felt a sense of achievement for doing so without any loss and for getting in the way of several ganks while doing that.
Some people kee attributing meaning to my words that isn’t there and use it to accuse me of shifting tack. I’ve been consistent throughout about how I feel.
It’s also possible that because my point is more nuanced than ganking bad or ganking good they don’t understand. I think it’s more likely they are being obtuse.
I think you have been consistent, but you are also discussing it too and acknowledging the points made which to some would appear like bending in the wind, not to me though.
My view is pretty nuanced too, I feel you are right on the obtuse suggestion. I hope you continue to post your views as it has been refreshing.
Allow a role player to educate you. One can absolutely role play a ganker. As one can role play a pirate. Or a salvager or a magical space princess that owns entire swaths of space systems.
You see, role play is limited by your imagination.
Path to becoming a Pirate inside New Eden once the lowest security staus reached then the hunter will become the hunted.
A Capsuleer first creates their pilot and this is based on a selection of one of the four main Races. There are 6 Races in New Eden, Jove and Ancient Races are not currently an option.
Now fast forward to the final blow to a Capsuleer caused by the Ganker, the security status resulting in a Combat - Aggression change to that Pilots Security Status.
Roleplay as a Pirate by giving yourself the title of a Ganker is still a Pirate in New Eden.
The comment was directed at the comment “We are NOT pirates.”
The reply given was fine (not find) FrostpackerRP (side humour) But the actions are concidered a Pirate.
All that was Red Herring as well, and a distraction from the argument being made. Not really adding to the argument.
I think I understand what you are saying here. In the classical definition (as you pointed out earlier) a ganker is most likely to roleplay as a pirate and not acknowledge the “ganking” aspect by its classical definition. But I know someone who roleplayed as a ganker, caught up in a death cult, so that can happen as well.
So pirate and ganker are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but in most cases are.