Who are you working for? Who would feed the citizens of New Eden?
Note, market trasnaction
Keep crying and keep flagging my post. You have zero creditability as you add nothing to the thread. Insulting you? If you say so, I have no feeling for or against you. You are just another ganker drum beater and you don’t understand the effect on the game, and how it is changing.
JJ
I do appreciate it, I genuinely love the game and I don’t have time to play forum games. And @Shipwreck_Jones although we agree on little, you are one of the very few gankers supports I would say that at least makes fundamental arguments for it.
JJ
And I do think your gameplay is great. I am only trying to convey not everyone is you or me. Understanding that people have different play styles, definitions of what fun is, and expectations for the game, I think would make this ganking thread go a long way.
You like exciting cat and mouse games. I think you would thrive in a good low sec corp.
We need people to play the game, you and I will not pay for the servers, and we need to think about how we get more people to join the game, not leave. I fundamentally believe creating high sec into a place of your story is one way of many. There is still tons and tons of WH, Low and Null systems that get one person a day in them if that. There is no shortage of space, no place too crowded, excluding main market hubs.
JJ
That is the Chinese test server, but lots of people in the US and EU are loving the idea. If for nothing else, changing the map and reworking a few things in-game makes it fresh again.
So I support invulnerability in high sec, I support ganking under the right balance schemes. I think ganking adds little value to the game and creates huge destruction to the game. I have said I would love to see a story with it if it does stay; Gankers should be treated as pirates. There are a lot of scenarios I would say I support. The current status is not one of them, but lots of others with good thoughts would be interesting to see play out.
I am, but I love Eve Online and I will stay for many more years.
And ganking can be removed I surely wouldn’t miss it and no one I play with would miss it. I think there could be a balance in there though if it has to stay, but I think CCP would be missing out on a big opportunity to get people back into Eve and get our numbers up again. Currently enough systems to have 2-3 players in every system all to themselves with log on numbers. So with my alts I could own a couple systems. Just another way to look at the distribution of people online. If the saying is true that you can cut the PCU numbers in half due to alts then that means every single person playing could own their own system.
Am I the only one that sees this as an issue that needs a attention? It just surprises me I am the only one fighting in thread to keep our game alive.
JJ
I know I am taking a bait here, but I can’t resist 
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That’s the thing you don’t understand. If highsec is perfectly safe place where no destruction can occur, then those who stay in highsec and never wander into “dangerous” zones like you are not adding anything to the game. Such players doesn’t have to play the game at all. Which is why I am encouraging you to HTFU or quit. We don’t need players like you who cannot accept the core nature of the game and asking for it to be changed. If highsec was perfectly safe then those living in it would be just PCU padding. EVE would look like more players plays it, but you wouldn’t be able to interact with majority of them so in reality even less actual players would play it.
You, and you-alike are trying to play singleplayer in multiplayer game. And it won’t even end with removal of ganking (and wardecs) from highsec. The next thing on menu will be removal of ever becoming a suspect in highsec, so no more loot stealing and MTU bashing either. And neither that won’t be enough. After that is done, the next thing you will ask is gonna be to make every mission and every anomaly and every signature instanced, so no one can come and grief you by shooting your npcs and killing them faster than you can, effectively stealing your loot.
On my NWN1 multiplayer server I am already in that last stage, after all the changes to make the game easier players are now crying they have to wait for respawn of npcs and demanding every dungeon to be instanced so they can solo it in multiplayer game without ever seeing and be affected by another player.
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No kidding?
Well, everybody who plays in Highsec would miss ganking - once you remove ganking, there will be no risk to Highsec resource gathering, which means supply of Veldspar and isk would increase exponentially, which means the value of those resources would plummet to zero, which means the profit from PvE would drop to nothing. Everyone who hates ganking is going to really hate no ganking.
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Not bait but it isn’t HTFU up moment. That is some battle cry in the middle of room that is empty. I am fundamentally looking at it from getting more people online. How we make low sec or wh space or even null more attractive, is on us in game a little, but on CCP for putting the content there and I get that 100%. But if we don’t have people, and the game isn’t appealing because you are so hard in a game, it is false feelings that many companies have failed trying to stick to one belief.
You mean clams how many people played in the past but really they are alts? I am okay with people that don’t play for the interaction, because everyone of those player is another opportunity to bring in another friend or two, who might think just a little different.
100% do not think this, I know and fully understand what a MMO is. It would stop with ganking removed, wardecs is a decision, but a structure up or don’t. You can be war illegible or not.
Get rid of ganking and this fixes the issue. But Abyssal as you know is already an instance…see the trend.
Why are you so against what players want? Why don’t you HTFU and get the ganking community to move to low sec, but hey arent we all just trying to be tough here?
You will see ganking die, there is so much support for the Chinese test I would say it is more popular than the Faction Warefare changes. No, it still isn’t proven, but if successful, I could see it come to the test server for us very soon, and if did I would actually be really excited about it.
Good post though, I understand we have different views and are both fighting for what we think is correct, and that is a good thing in a lot of ways.
JJ
If you assumed nothing changed other than ganking is removed, you would see little change, and if any the price would go up as you would see more activities, more ships, and larger ships in play. And there isn’t so much ganking disruption you would see more mining, maybe a little but not much.
If you assumed ganking being removed, and an influx of players this gets a little more dynamic. You have players buying ships, making isks, buying more, and mining more. Would it cap out? Not sure maybe, and maybe prices start going down more. This would cause people to take more risk, go out to low sec for better ore, ore jump a wormhole to get gas. This is what I think would happen, as you make those spaces more attractive, people would move out there.
So let us hope you are right about prices going down. After ganking is removed, it would do what CCP has been trying to do in low sec for a very long time which is populated it.
JJ
Yep. Troll confirmed. Shake hands with Dracvlad, if you aren’t his alt. Flagging this as spam, because that is what it is.
If you say so, flag away, i will make the small change and open it right back up.
JJ
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Sure, why not?
And you know why ? Because carebears are too scared to go there. And you think your stupid plan to make highsec 100% risk free is going to make them go there ? Seriously ?
You haven’t a clue what you are talking about. We have no evidence that you have ever even played Eve, and are not just some clueless idealist trolling from the sidelines.
It has been explained to you over and over again why highsec needs ganking. Even those such as myself who risk being ganked on a daily basis argue for ganking. The reason being that fools such as yourself have not considered the full implications were ganking removed.
As for your claim that people are leaving Eve en masse due to being ganked…it is a downright lie for which you have zero evidence. I still see many of the noobs who joined Eve same time as me a year ago. Not a single one of them has left Eve, despite being ganked. I follow the ‘Why Was I Ganked ?’ channel…and see no evidence that any of the people ganked there leave Eve.
And here’s the irony…the only people I do know for certain have left Eve in the past year have been gankers. For example Mr Serious used to regularly post here in favour of ganking. He disappeared around mid March…and has not been seen since, either here or in-game or in killboard.
I like how you say this with such certainty.
Can you post your projection models that support this claim please.
Otherwise it’s just pulling ■■■■ out of your ass. As usual.
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This has to be some of the stupidest logic I have ever seen. Why would making highsec a risk free carebear paradise make anyone go to lowsec ?
If you removed highsec ganking and all the carebears then had zero experience of ever losing a ship, the cliff edge when they enter lowsec would be even greater. You haven’t forced people into lowsec…you’ve done the reverse ! All the risk-averse people who already are too scared to go to lowsec would be even more scared to go there because they’d never experience loss in your paradise highsec.
This is just deluded nonsense from you. You think that giving people a totally risk free Telletubbie Carebear Paradise Highsec is going to make them take more risk ?? No. Having less risk is simply going to make people get used to less risk and make them even more risk averse !
I think it is time I joined the rest of the crowd here who have simply blocked you for being the troll that you are.
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You can choose to role play anything you want but its still a fact that you are actually a low sec pirate , you can’t change nature, you can disguise it, pretend your not ,with lavish outfits and fancy ships but you will still be a low sec pirate .
Btw i will support you right to want to be something else even thought you cant actually be that.
I just had an image of you ice mining in a jack sparrow outfit saying to concord “what”
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While being in the Frostpacker corporation. 
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Um,
This is just a video-game. What you just wrote is extremely disturbing and you should really seek help.
What I do in a video game is not representative of what or how I act in real life and the fact that you are conflating the two is a serious red flag.
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