New market update potential economy collapse

More like wasting 2 active hrs to have tens of billions a month earlier and then enjoy the game.

Now it’s wait weeks dealing with market stagnation and gambling your orders will fill or lose a lot in fees not enjoying the game to make 200m.

That’s only because you were biased towards this method, so you can’t realize the nonsense in it.
I am talking in benefit, not in the sale volume. Otherwise it’s BS to compare it to another activity.

Always was.
Trading is gamble, but you can load the dice.

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Benefit is only a matter of perspective not fixed the same for everyone. Some saw the benefit of actively getting trades over with and moving on to other things. Others are lazy and see benefit in set it and forget it play style. Your heavily biased to set it and forget it just like I am to active manage and get it over with.

This is completely irrelevant to the post at hand, which is

If you can’t understand that making 10B of volume in trade is worthless if your benefit is 200M, then of course you can’t understand that spending 2H to make it one month before is still complete stupidity.

You are making up stupid definition of “benefit” in order to avoid realizing that what you were doing was stupid.

Benefit is total money gained, all other things equal. That means you can get the benefit of a cycle, aka the total money gained, if you are in the same state at the end and at the beginning of the cycle. Then you can look how many times it took you to make that cycle and deduce the benefit from the cycle, and its time cost. And you realize that you could have done the same benefit without the time cost, at the cost of delayed benefit.

Lol… tens of billions in PROFIT not volume for 2 hrs of active managing before. Lol. “Having tens of billions” means just that… HAVING… not volume learn to read.

Spin all you like. Fact is your supposed white Knight thinking your way forces the poor idiots to benefit against their will is a load of crap. “I’ll make them benefit even if they don’t want to!”

Except that the new way doesn’t make them benefit it’s all in your head. It doesn’t cause more enjoyment of the game. Only extra tedium and annoyance for many so that some lazy people like you can get a perceived benefit.

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Yeah it means HAVING, not GAINING. Learn to read.

Go ■■■■ yourself.

I don’t know who is that them, but whatever.
One day, you’ll stop crying over it. And realize how stupid you were. That all your denial did only waste your own time in a delusional world.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Remember folks… This is a prime example of the type of person that CCP supposedly wants to encourage with these changes. No wonder things are going down the toilet.

That’s exactly why they did this… It’s a veiled attempt to stop players from laying on their orders and making it difficult for more casual players to sell… The bots and automated market changers are a false excuse for implementing the change… Players complained that they were up against bots and automated changers, but in fact, they were up against players who are spending their days constantly keeping their orders on top… I’ve been actively trading with 5 accounts for almost two years, and not once have I ever ran into a bot or something automated changing orders… CCP’s claim that frequent .01 changes is not human is also a false assumption that is simply not true… Everyone has been changing their orders by .01 for as long as I’ve been here…

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Well if you didnt say utterly daft things in the first lace, you wouldnt get your little feelies hurt, would you?

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Lol. Who said my feelings were hurt? Anderson is almost entertainment. How could I be hurt by a joke like him that can’t even read a simple sentence properly that a kindergartner can easily comprehend. Sadly he also lowers my hope for humanity.

Whatever you say Jack.
If you think Anderson is a white knight, you gotta be shrooming.

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Read again I said he thinks he is not that he actually is.

Youre the one who made the supposition. Rereading it doesnt change what you have written.

I see now why they have such a bugbear for correcting people.

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Yawn, if you read the conversation chain then it should be apparent what I said and in what context. I don’t need to waste time going over it again to explain to you.

Didnt ask you to.

And, if you understood how words have meanings, we wouldnt be having this porpoiseless offtopic back and forth.

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Your lack of understanding and reading comprehension isn’t my problem. Your right this conversation is “porpoiseless”. :rofl:

At least you have a sense of humour, even if it doesnt stretch much beyond “no you”

Of how your opinion is completely irrelevant, and why you should be told to go ■■■■ yourself when you don’t stick to the topic.

Your insulting assumptions made for the sole basis of being a dickhead, can be answered in only one way : go ■■■■ yourself.

It’s very crude, but at least it clearly shows that we reached the point where your personal attacks and your lies made the discussion impossible.

Well, you can find market bots for purchase, and apparently CCP banned 60 bots a while back, so there are at least some bots present; but yeah, you may very well be right about the false excuse. People probably assumed that bots were worse than they actually were (for example, I’ve had players message me to say they were just checking to make sure I wasn’t a bot), and that’s what actually prompted CCP to take action -the perception of widespread botting, versus an actual prevalence of botting.

But, I can understand why CCP would do that. Botters and cheaters make people feel like they’re playing on an unlevel playing field, which drives them from the game.

What’s interesting is that players messaged me quite often as well but normally I just ignore messages from someone I don’t know unless I killed them (those are interesting as they either ask for advice how to be better or give angry tears why did I kill them). So likely my lack of response made people think I was a bot. I also saw people doing things like selling me 1 trit to see who my orders belonged to. However even though I 0.1 iskd a lot didn’t mean I just mindlessly did it. For example if someone got angry and severely dropped the price I would not chase them. I would pause until theirs sold and keep doing my thing or even put orders more expensive than theirs. If people kept undercutting to where the volume couldn’t eat the low ballers in a timely manner I would pause for a while sometimes several days or move operations to another trade hub temporarily.