New market update potential economy collapse

No, you can not actually. EvE is not real life.

Weā€™re now 19 days in since the prophet foretold the collapse of the economy. Yet neither the collapse nor our prophet is to be seen?

HE DID THE MATH!!

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Maybe he confused EVE economy with the real one?

Big thing you pointed out, the release of back inventory. That can power an economy, real or virtual, for an amount of time.

In the CCP articles, I believe they mention built-up inventories.

This is a long term move, and not for the playerbase benefit. With CCP gaining new ownership by Pearl Abyss, a new corporate philosophy has been brought to bear.

As time moves forward, watch for a change in rate of microtransactions. A game economy of scarcity is helpful if a game company wants to have more of those.

While the things are likely headed that way, a game economy of abundance does not create an interesting gameplay.

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While the things are likely headed that way, a game economy of abundance does not create an interesting gameplay.

Demonstrate that. Iā€™ve found enjoyable gameplay in systems where the challenge was from an external circumstance rather than my own management of scarce resources.

Well, there is no reason for conflict between players in such a system, and engagement through PvE content requires constant creation of it and is not really connected to the market model.


???

Itā€™s like the market has its swing ups and swing downs!!
Itā€™s likeā€¦ the market fluctuates around!!
OH NO!! ITā€™S THE COLLAPSE!!

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No, see, you actually mean, ā€œI have no idea what Iā€™m talking about and will flip flop my position whenever Iā€™m called out on itā€.

Face it, the market is fine, will be fine, and thereā€™s going to be no ā€œcollapseā€.

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Nonsense. PLEX sales do not generate in-game wealth, they only transfer it between players. A game of scarcity creates a situation where many people may want to buy PLEX to convert into wealth but few people have enough excess resources to trade for PLEX. If you want to drive PLEX sales you need an economy with abundance of resources so that people have extra to convert into paying for their subscription.

The only way to get around this problem would be to sell in-game assets directly for cash, and thatā€™s a line CCP has to think very carefully about because it has an extremely high chance of killing the game overnight.

Demonstrate that. Iā€™ve found enjoyable gameplay in systems where the challenge was from an external circumstance rather than my own management of scarce resources.

What demonstration do you want besides ā€œa major part of EVE is the player-driven economy and the conflicts it generatesā€? Having those things requires scarcity, give everyone too much easy resources and thereā€™s nothing to fight over and few market/industry opportunities.

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Now weā€™ve gotten to the point where weā€™re backtracking HARD and trying to fudge the lines. :popcorn: Whatever, kid.

Face it, there wonā€™t be a collapse, you and your doomsday crybaby friends donā€™t know what youā€™re talking about and were just scared about the changes. The economy is fine, the market is fine, the players are fine.

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The difference between EVE and the real world is that in the real world thereā€™s a rigid line between producers and consumers but in EVE you are not locked into one side. If prices rise too high then you are free to take advantage by putting effort into industry instead of other wealth-generating activities. Either you make a bunch of stuff that sells for a high price and have enough wealth to buy the other stuff you need or you just bypass the market and supply yourself directly.

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To be fair he is right about what he said but he misidentified the cause behind increasing pricesā€¦ although he missed that prices are increasing that much. Namely nerfs to mining that caused some people to just refuse to adapt and instead they went into some stupid ā€œmanufacturer strikeā€. I say: I welcome profits increase from both activities with open arms.

No. He was attributing market variation, that existed BEFORE the change, to the change. Thatā€™s literally retarded.

He just made a bunch of general prophecies with unspecific terms, so that whatever happens he can say ā€œI said soā€, but in reality he just made stupid claims and a fool of himself.

Thatā€™s just spamming the forum with stupidity. The next step is him claiming ā€œI got you all it was a troll all alongā€. Which should award him a ban off the forum, for ā€œrumor mongering and trollā€, if the mods were actually doing their work.

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True, but what he said about price increases as being a marker of economic collapse is correctā€¦ as long as you donā€™t have other explanation for them. And I have seen people doing firesales of stuff in large quantitiesā€¦ so what do you do? You buyout everything and sell at higher margins 'cuz now there is less competition. That + mining nerfs is why we have price hikes. But this is only someone who does market plays notices.

Therefore itā€™s wrong.
If your whole argument for an idea is ā€œI canā€™t think of anything elseā€, then it only talks about you, not about that idea.

Next step is, you just shut up. Donā€™t stop now !

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is a wall of nonsense.

I think itā€™s a good time to check and see if the economy has collapsed yetā€¦ andā€¦ nope. I donā€™t see a collapse. Weird.

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Wonā€™t bother me if it does, my wallet is in stasis.