They won’t. A 2 day old newbie is not going to get himself in trouble standings wise. At least not to the extend to state that “newbies really should start with doing 12 sets of career agents”. Don’t get me wrong, DOING all 12 sets is great for income and standing, but a newbie is not really into that, they want to fly cool space ships and “do stuff” other than redoing the same tutorial a dozen times.
Just because something is optimal doesn’t mean it’s for newbies, especially not if that means they might get bored, decide that “EVE is boring” to then uninstall. Newbie experience isn’t about minmaxing, it’s about figuring out if they even like a game enough to minmax in the first place or just uninstall after 1-3 hours of gameplay.
Good gawd, a 2 day old new player is still learning the basics of the game let alone how to interact and operate the User Interface…
I could address your other points but I’m not gonna waste time and argue about it since you just keep posting the same old opinionated statements…
The bottom line is this:
They need to have all the facts first and not be overly influenced by somebody else’s opinion so they can make an informed decision as to what path they want to take in this game…
That’s the type of gas lighting certain… people do.
No, they don’t. They FIRST need to come to the conclusion that the game is worth investing in to. Stop thinking about this stuff from your own perspective, again… something certain types of people do.
use their time to figure out what they like and dislike
That’s it. What YOU or I find fun or would do doesn’t matter and doesn’t help them because they lack the understanding of the game and it’s highly probably that what YOU (or I) find fun they might dislike, making them stop playing.
Only a massive narcissist would think that others should do what THEY enjoy or do.
I went nearly a year before training my training skills even with everyone telling me to. Though as I added more characters over the years, I realized I should have listened to them.
Not sure whose argument this helps, but reading your back and forth jogged that ancient memory.
If you were playing and having fun then that’s what kept you playing and that is all that matters, the old “if you’re having fun you’re playing EVE right” thing.
If you cared (more) about the things you didn’t know but now DO know, what are the chances that if you had focussed on that early it would have lowered the fun of the game for you at that point in time. Not saying it would have, just saying that people play in their own way, at their own speed following their own path ESPECIALLY in a sandbox and that they need to figure out for themselves what they want to do and what they care about.
Telling them to grind 12 career agent locations doing the same missions over and over because of isk and standing is probably not a great thing to tell newbies to do. You can, and probably should, most certainly mention it at an option but “go do this” is going to massively increase the risk of players dropping out.
NOT disagreeing, just something that IMO is important. Many mechanics in the game are against common sense, even though they make their own sense, and teaching newbros how the game works so they can explore it is IMO as important as having fun.
For example, teaching them that they lose SS when they shoot you in lowsec . Or how to identify WH , both visually and from inside it. Or how to find valuable ore. Or how to find their optimal range in a ship, and fight at that range (and switch ammo) for rating.
IMO that’s important because it gives them a feeling of appropriation of the game, and ways to experiment the sandbox. It gives them tool to build their own sand castle.
. Or how to identify WH , both visually and from inside it. Or how to find valuable ore. Or how to find their optimal range in a ship, and fight at that range (and switch ammo) for rating.