The Odysseus is, among other things, a gas mining vessel.
Can it get a mining surveyor please?
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I agree.
While I think it was an awful decision to hard-code certain hulls a âmining surveyorâ feature depending on whether they are considered mining ships by the game or not, I agree that the Odysseus should get access to that feature. The Odysseus as it is a gas huffing ship just as much as a Prospect is one, which does have the mining surveyor feature.
Personally I think the full âmining surveyorâ feature should never have been added like this.
It should have been fully part of a module like the mining chipset, or should have been a ship role, just like all other ship features in the game.
Invisible bonuses and features just because a ship is part of a faction is inconsistent with how the rest of EVEs ships are designed.
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Again a thread that makes me miss the sandbox we once had. The one where you figured out through extensive testfitting if a hull was suitable for you and your task or a different would be better.
Today we have module fitting restrictions to role attributes or indirectly to power and cpu bonuses and much more awful those integrated mining surveyors. All functions should be bound to fittable modules at least. I donât get why this was changed.
I miss the days of old where mining Geddons and mining Bestowers were a common sight. Just because you could do it and they made sense to some extent.
It should simply be a scanner, available on all hulls.
On one side that allows people to scan their environment for valuable resources while moving around and/or exploring, even if not in a mining ship. And maybe bookmark a location and come back later and/or give it to their friends.
And on the other side once someone gets into a more specialized mining ship, the usage of that scanner is already clear and intuitive. I see little reason to restrict it to mining ships only.
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To point out some serious downsides with the current mining survey chipset system.
Note this screenshot from 2022. Notice that this survey scanner interactionâŚgave you all the data and details you neededâŚyou could even sort the various items by distance/yield/units. Why did this need to be âchanged for change sake?â It was working fine as intended.
Sadly post CatalystâŚthe graphics are cool and nice. But so many frustrating bugs.
Why couldnât the graphics just been tied with the old scanning module. [buffing it and giving some nice extra data interactions]
I am actually leaning to the fact that the residue reduction / bonusesâŚcould have been module and rig specific. [Mining ships do not have alot of options to optimize at this moment.] (Ironically Mining is the most penalized fitting wiseâŚyou canât really max-min on a lot of hulls due to the CPU penalties that mining upgrades have even with full skills.)
The more problematic issue is the mining survey chipset isnât really beneficial for another issue, its massively code bugged.
If you place it on any non-ORE ship line upâŚit tracks the cargoholds. This is why when I fly my Mining Abomination Odysseus [Yes it is a thing] Its tracking the cargo bay onlyâŚnot interacting with the expedition hold. And the bug also has unique distance issues. Some shipsâŚthe indicator ring floats way too far behind the shipâŚwhile on other shipsâŚits too close to the center of the ships hullâŚmaking it unusable.
Also the Mining Survey Chipset is inferior to the older Mining Survey Scanner. In one very particular reason. The Chipset is only limited to showing data of locked rocksâŚso its limited to showing you only the max number of targets your ship can lock. Nothing else. This especially becomes painful in systems that reduce target lock numbers [maining Triglavian affected systems and Pochven] Where as the older mining survey scannerâŚgave you all rocks within a set distance of the ship. [This especially was useful for mining foreman playersâŚon porpoises/orcas/rorquals [they even had bonuses to increase its radius of mining survey scanning] in the old days. ]
I think the Mining Survey ChipsetâŚneeds to be reset to the Mining Survey Scanner again. [Keep the graphicsâŚunlock the menu of the mining survey scanner again. And allow more detailed data on rocks/gas/iceâŚif you are locked up to rocks. [regardless of hull type.] It was working fine like before.
The bonus and residue adjustments need to be modified to new modules or rigs. Mining ships donât have alot of options to specialize builds around mining as much as combat ships do. That could be something to be looked into.
Its a huge problemâŚand I feel like who ever suggested or did the module changeâŚhasnât ever really mined or used the old scanner.