Off-Topic Thread vol. 2

Indeed, I do find it somewhat amusing that seemingly every other post on a communications platform is being used for declarations of intent to cease all communications.

I do not Have an Accurate Count, but I Believe the number to be Between 5 and 10 Times.

At this point, the ā€œIm done talking to youā€ trope is Jenneths signature line.

Usually because I’m talking to Arrendis.

What can I say? She’s interesting enough that I often end up responding to her reply, and at any rate end up giving her another go after a couple weeks.

You, like her, could choose to not say anything. Every reply from either of you is always signed with a ā€œI’M THRU W/ Uā€ and then it just never stops. At least stop ending posts like that. Just for consistency’s sake?

If it’s for consistency’s sake shouldn’t I keep it going?

All of you show all the signs of having spent way too much time talking to each other.

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Maybe so. … I kind of love this place, you know? Diverse backgrounds. Real discourse. Extended, detailed reasoning. It’s good.

Only … egos, including maybe mine. Bitter, entrenched disputes. Apocalyptic thinking. Hate. ā€œShitpostingā€-- IE, intentionally posting something noxious and of low quality, fouling the waters.

This place has such potential, and it mostly goes to waste-- a pattern that seems reflected in the larger world. It gets … so tiring. People joke, but I’ve barely been here in months.

And yet, this is still one of my favorite places. It’s like watching people dropping industrial waste in my garden. … and maybe I’m poisoned, too, and poisonous.

I don’t know what to do.

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You used to travel, didn’t you?

You appear to be wrong.

Yeah. That was before … a lot of stuff.

It’s less doable, now. I have responsibilities and people I’m close to. Loved ones. I still like to wander when I get the chance, though that’s pretty rare. Also, the word ā€œvacationā€ has, ah, not been a happy word for me for a few years now.

In a pretty real way, it seems that freedom and responsibility aren’t good friends. And with being trusted, and being trustworthy, comes responsibility.

There was maybe a certain amount of nostalgia in the immediate liking I took to you, Ms. Valtovist.

They’re not. But you have to have balance. Set boundaries. Carve out time for yourself. If you don’t, you’ll just drive yourself insane.

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You and I might set our preferred boundaries in slightly different places, Arrendis. … Really, my way of thinking about it might seem a little insane to you.

Which might be why the non-negotiable thing you keep trying to negotiate just ends up frustrating us both.

From what I’ve seen, no… not insane. Just deluded.

I can live with that. … I’ve been able to live with that. Can we just assume you’re never, ever going to talk me out of it and discuss other stuff instead? I mean, seriously, it’s been like four years.

It must be tiring for you, too.

Not particularly… but then, I don’t know what you’d want to discuss that won’t eventually lead right back to things like you believing I want the Empire to burn.

I wonder why I’d think such a silly thing? … To an extent it’s not even relevant, Arrendis. If you don’t, there are others close by who do, and very loudly. If my quarrel’s not with you, then fine, it’s not with you. You seem to kind of enjoy masks, anyway, and I’m aware that not every apparent political stance is necessarily aimed at what it appears to be.

Only, has it occurred to you that in such a drama I’d have to play my part, too?

In negotiation, it’s often wise to focus on places where agreement of some kind might be reached. Even if you do inevitably come back around to the differences, the rifts might seem a little smaller, after. We can take hostility to the Amarr as read; it’s inevitable, but also frankly boring. I get the ā€œwhy,ā€ I just don’t share it, and I won’t no matter how often it’s said. Sometimes there’s a usually-horrifying new wrinkle, but it mostly stopped being interesting literally years ago.

I’m more interested in stuff like customs, folklore, religious beliefs, family structures, weirdnesses, needs and how to deal with them, or how to get you out of that disastrous mechanized costume that one time.

People. Ideas. Even ideals, if you can resist trying to drive them through my skull.

We’re not the same. I’m okay with that. I’m comfortable. My perspective’s not the only correct one; in fact I won’t even really claim it’s correct (I’m still at best a seeker, myself, after all, not at all a master). But it’s mine, and it makes sense to me, and you’re not someone I’d trust to tinker with my head. The reason’s simple: I don’t think you’re any wiser than me.

But you are worth talking to, and I do like to talk, and I like to learn. That hasn’t changed at all. So can we maybe … just … do that? I won’t even mind if you feed me some loaded material, like the Gallente did with the State after the Great War. I’m not scared of people trying to bring me around to their point of view, and of course the Amarr have been trying hard, too.

I won’t pretend I’ll be easy to bring around; the Amarr have been finding me even a little frustrating. But I’m eager to find out what I’d learn along the way.

I’m just tired of fighting endlessly over the same blasted stuff.

Consistency according to the words you’ve written rather than the past actions; I guess I could’ve been more clear. I’m just being grumpy all the time lately, so don’t mind me, stranger.

It’s okay, Charles. It’s not like it isn’t heartfelt each time it’s said, but … well, yeah.

It’s gotten a little comical even to me.

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Yes, I know, which is why I said:

Because the thing you don’t want to get into? It literally forms the foundation of all of that for us, to one degree or another. It’s inescapable.