Hm. I see. Then alcohol shouldn’t affect your trip that much, I guess.
Not sure if it’s the combined effect that usually does or the mixture of the two becoming something different. But some people do use it as an antidote - the result is not always what they’ve desired.
I like getting slightly drunk sometimes, and keep genetic modifications to my clones to minimum. So I don’t usually mix alcohol with potent pcychedelics. Unless I’m feeling especially adventurous 
Terrorist is a person who facilitates or willingly participates in a terror operation.
A terror operation is a military operation with a primary goal of instilling fear in population or combat personnel as opposed to real operation with physical achievable tasks.
Using this word to anyone who isn’t involved in actual fear-mongering combat operations is straightforward dumb.
If that is true then calling Tibus Heth a dictator was highly incorrect.
Either you shall accept a definition of a dictator as a person wth only unlimited executive powers, or you shall take your words that Tibus Heth is dictator back, since the same judical powers were held by CBT, not the Executor.
Dictator is a person who has earned a merit of leadership by one way or another, even if by military conquest, which makes him even more merited, since military conquest of a power in a whole country is a great and honorable feat. (You can think of it like this: if you think YOU are better than a dictator, then why HE is a dictator and not YOU?)
Criminal on the other hand is a person of low repute who violates an agreement (as a public agreement between citizens and government - laws) and is afraid to face consequences of own actions. Very dishonorable and disgraceful person!
As for the trust… well… a Honorable citizen shouldn’t put Trust onto their dictators. They shall give their dictators their LOYALTY! A benevolent ruler shall treat subordinates as their children, and children shall put utter respect and loyalty to their parents. The question whether you “trust your parents” shall never arise! If they are your parents, you accept them as is, you respect them as is, and you obey them as is, since they gave you the most valuable thing you have besides your Honor, which is your Life, and your Life belongs to them as well. If they say you shall Die for your parents, so you shall do.
But they commit a criminal act, yes? Then they aren’t a legal entity anymore! I mean… a Citizen by a definition is a Legal entity, citizens have some rules and obligations they have to follow and for which they are granted certain legal priveleges. In that regard the organization is the same as a citizen, the difference though is that members of a such organization usually are punished harder than loners, because participation in organized crime activity is a crime itself.
There are some perks of being a military commander operating under standing orders, isn’t it?
But in any way, posession of combat weapons are restricted if you aren’t a military person and as a citizen you delegate all the power to execute justice for you on your corporate security forces. The privilege of being a Citizen of the State implies having a judical and military protection organized by your parent Mega security forces.
These guys are trigger happy hotshots, and you don’t even have to pay them like to some merc, because the Mega already pays them and gives them enough ammo for a small scale war. If you haven’t seen yet the police doing orbital bombardments, or ramming gurista bunkers with tanks, you haven’t been in the State! Our police forces are literally small armies by themselves.
I’d have to face a court martial for sure, where I should provide the evidences of their crime to the Judge, who will decide if my operation was justified or not, and shall carry whatever sentence they will give to me. This is a Honorable way.
But again, only as a military person. Civilians shall never participate in such acts. We fight for them.
Not exactly, some changes can have lasting effects. Chemical balance can be quite fragile if you add some extra reactives that weren’t initially supposed to be there.
Aye aye, or the brain will turn into the morning porridge!
Sounds like modern governments. To a commoner, not aware of all the undercarpet polical strings, their actions often seems as ‘straightforward dumb’.
Hm. Now I actually see, how my statement ‘Heth IS a dictator’ was incorrect. They overthrew him 9 years ago, I thought he’s still State Executor Even though his rise did seem like that of a typical dictator, he wasn’t actually one in full sense… Seems like he’s a terrorist though, by Kaalakiota’s book 
People become politcal criminals when they go against a government they see as corrupt or unjust. They are usually persecuted before they actually violate any laws and rarely ever labeled as ‘political criminals’, since the term is actually highly sympathetical. They are labeled ‘terrorists’, ‘insurgents’ and so on.
Of course Shakor was called just ‘criminal’ by Amarr and pro-Amarr before he became a political fifure. What else would they call an active rebel?
Loyalty comes only after trust. With the rulers anyway. Would you be loyal to a usurper with no background whatsoever who assumed power via bribes or brute force?
And that’s how rulers different from parents. They are, in the end, chosen - by society or elites. Hereditary rule makes it less of a choice, but if ruler is not trusted - here comes the coup.
Parents can be outright cruel to their children too. Some children remain loyal to such parents and become mental cripples, others uprise - run away, sue them or even kill them - and these ones would care very little how naughty you think they are.
Which is turned a blind eye upon. They kidnapped your family, and the authorities say that ‘nothing is wrong’. Officially they’re upstanding citizens. Holding your beloved ones hostage.
Well. The judge in that setting would declare you terrorist, and all your efforts would be undone if not worse. They’d likely execute you and your family and the ones who wronged you would remain unpunished and very likely commit similar acts to other people. Would you concede to that? Honorable course of action?
Or would you rather take your family and asscociates and retreat from the grasp of the crime regime that allows such atrocities? Would you possibly act against it again, cooperating with other people it wronged? Note: we’re not talking about the State you’re so loyal to here, just imagine you were a citizen of such regime.
Do I have any choice?
As long as he serves the State, I pledge my allegiance to him.
Well, if you disgagree with your superior to the degree you are unable to execute his orders, you have two options: first - draw your gun and arrest him, and let the court martial decide who of you was wrong and shall be executed, either him for giving illegal order, or you for rebelling against your superior without a legal ground.
Option two is to take your own life.
As for what to do with nation leaders. Oh, Maker. That’s way above my paygrade. I’ll tell you what I do when I become a megacorp CEO! Ok?
A citizen is upstanding only as long as she doesn’t break the law. Taking a hostage is a very severe violation of law! If an authority covers up such a violation, immediately call security on him! When one authority takes a wrong step it’s a perfect opportunity for other authorities to step on his head to climb higher, ya know.
Just don’t try to blackmail him with that, because that’s illegal too, it is implied you’d cover a crime and let him go. Immediately report him! And let his head roll.
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First of all, you can’t execute anyone for a mere “being terrorist”. While being terrorist is being judged in a military society for being an inefficient amateur, but it’s definitely not a crime by itself, nor deserves execution… The tribunal will execute you for you ACTUAL crimes you have committed during your terror acts. You blew up people - prepare for charges in murder or mass murder. You destroyed a building - prepare for charges in property damage. Terrorism is a simple intent of your actions, and we aren’t gallentean black eagles to disappear people for intent! We judge people only for what they did, not for what they thought.
Moreover, you can’t be “declared” terrorist, as it’s simply no way of actually proving your intent in committing a crime with intent of causing terror, you will have to admit that yourself. For example, exclamations like “Take that and fear the tribes!” before or after the crime, admitting in front of the judge that “Yes, I did that so they will fear me and do something or stopped doing something.” Or just saying something like “Yes, I am a freedom fighter!” Which is a sort of admission in that as well.
And while you can demand to arrest the judge if he will start to judging you for “terrorism”, for sure he can judge you for being a freedom fighter, because this terrorist cults are illegal in the State and being a freedom fighter is not allowed.
But well, having an incompetent judge is a common situation. In field tribunals you can be processed by three officers. If you feel they forgot their military law courses, you have three options: demand a trial by combat. Challenge a judge. Or go with their decision right to higher tribunal, up to CBT. But with doing that you shall always be aware, if the higher tribunal will find their decision to be just and you were just trying to get out of the responsibility, you’ll be in a WAY WAY bigger problem. And it’s better to accept a judgement of the first tribunal, unles you are 150% sure that your judge is an imbecile who judges you for “Terrorism” when you haven’t committed actual terror act.
Well, if you have an dumbass authority and another dumbass judge and dumbasses higher judge and your superior is a dumbass and whole your regime is a dumbass, and you are a citizen in a dumbass dishonorable regime, you can restore your honor from association with them by committing a ritual suicide.
That’s what I’d do. Though I didn’t get where the question was going towards. Was that dumbass regime I’d be loyal to, or that would be a dumbass regime whose borders I crossed to enact vengeance upon?
Because for the second case, I actually was in a such situation myself… well… not exactly like that, without kidnappings and terrorism ■■■■■■■■, just me, some dead bodies, honorable tribunal from our side, dishonorable demands from the other…
It’s a long story. It didn’t end good for me. But if I would get into the same situation again, I’d do the same actions again and it again wouldn’t end good for me.
This happened just some months before Tibus Heth came to power, and you know, why I still do respect Mr. Heth so much - is that I know that if he’d come to power just couple months earlier, I wouldn’t have to face these… bad… consequences for me, and I was damn happy that so many young boys and girls who could end in the same situation as I did would not have to share my fate, under his rule such crap would never have happened.
One advantage to working with the Angel Cartel that I have found is the ready access to pharmaceuticals when I feel the need for adventures in altered mental states.
Although all things considered, I would rate the ready access to Brutor man toys much more invigorating.
Motorcycles, Meat Grills, Chemical-propelled firearms, and ride-on Lawnmowers ?
I did not Know that the Angel Cartel dealt in such Commodities.
I don’t see why not.
Brutor man toys in my view have a well deserved reputation for ruggedness and ability to take physical punishment that I enjoy as an end user.
Trains. I think trains, a lot of boys love to play with trains for some awkward reason.
But that’s for Caldari. I don’t know about Brutors much. Are they advanced enough for this?
I believe it to Be the Satisfaction of organising an efficient Logistic Chain for delivering Materials and Products to their Destinations.
Well, if you’d go and assault the place where they kept your family hostage and then go to the court, there would likely be a number of accusations towards you - damaged property, dead bodies, illegal trespass. And since the judge is on their site, they’d likely fabricate more reasons - enough for a death sentence or worse.
Let’s say you were born a citizen of that regime. You are considered a loyal citizen - loyalty is expected of you. But you’re not really ‘citizen’ - your social status is non-existent, the ruling class is allowed to do anything they want to the likes of you. And all honor, privileges and security this regime offers is exclusive for the ruling class.
Would you just take your life in this scenario? Or would you rescue your relatives and then take your life? Or would make it your life purpose to save anyone who is wronged by this regime by any means?
Sounds like an interesting story. Hope I’ll get to hear more of it one day.
Maybe I should get you supplied with a sebiestor girl toy with a surprise inside 
You don’t go to the tribunal and explaining it: “I went there and kill these peaceful civilians”, but you present evidences of what they did and why you had to do this. If you actually recovered your family from there and recorded it with helm cameras or camera drones, that’s pretty much enough evidences. Even better if you captured some of them alive and run them through the tribunal first - then their guilty verdict will be your verdict of innocence.
If they were hiding in their burrow and were telling “No, we’re white and fluffy we violate no law, we’re good obedient citizens” won’t work if you put that burrow upside down and took all the evidences from there togetether with the captured family. These facts are undeniable.
On the other had if you turned upside down a different burrow, kiled some people and found nothing, well… you’re in a DEEP DEEP trouble! A sidegun to the temple would be a best solution…
That’s something wrong and surreal to imagine that. Service guarantees citizenship. If you’re loyal and loyalty expected from you, you are given honors and privileges by the regime in comparison to those who didn’t pledge their life and loyalty to them. That’s rational and expected everywhere.
For example, returning back to the State (well, since I have actual experience of living there), I pledge my loyalty to the State by many reasons, but among them is that the State gave me everything I have, they gave me life, food, education, living accomodations, upbringing, thorough training, security while I was a kid and protection from outsiders and criminals. Literally everything I have I owe to the State and not being loyal to the State just by these reasons would mean being an ungrateful swine. And those who’d betray the State are treated as filth that doesn’t deserve human treatment.
The basis for absolute loyalty is that the regime gives you everything you need, and for that you give back everything you have. Including your life.
Possibly…
You forgot power tools.
How much punishment can they take?
Knowing the reputation of the Sebiestor, I might err on the side of caution given the potential for a surprise.
You don’t need eyes to see, you need vision.
Caldari tea brings death! Choose life! Chose sedevacantism!
Says the little troll who knows nothing about Caldari traditions.
I see. Imagination’s not your strongest perk, apparently. Well, I can tell you such regime does exist. I think you know already how it is called. It has even gone as far as to invade another race’s home. And abduct in billions. And attempt to erase their cultural ancestry from existence. And when one of the enslaved ones decided that he had enough and instead of loyalty gave his master what he really deserved, their response was to wipe out his entire nation. Feel the weight. A planet’s population was held resposible for what one man did. Not to mention that the planet itself was turned into a glass desert. The man who was killed was that much more important. That’s how rotten their society is.
You might say it was hundreds of years ago, and the slaves were fed and given accomodation, education and security. Well guess what, none of that shite beats a simple luxury of being treated as human, with dignity and the right to choose. And billions of broken fates are not simply forgotten and excused over a few centuries.
What do you think would be an appropriate response for a crime of genocide of interplanetary scale? Honorably take oneselves life? Should every mother and child have done that? Or maybe just embrace the idea of being an auxillary subrace in a regime that commits such horrors?
I think the only appropriate response is to take everything back. With any means and with zero (0) regard of what they think of your honor, manners or law-abidance. And those who are labelled criminals for doing so - are Heroes. If you think they should care about their Honor in whoever’s eyes rather than commit with their whole souls to getting the only right thing done, then excuse me, Strike Commander, I don’t quite like how this thing you call ‘Honor’ smells. I’d prefer not to stand next to it.
And clearly argumentative rational discussion isn’t yours, tribal. We are finished here. Go back to your slave pen and stop bothering us with your nonsence.