Well, sounds like you are not a donor but an investor. What contract did the Magic Schoolbus Fund sign to receive your money? There the terms and conditions are clarified.
I as a donor don’t want an audit either, so you are in the minority in the recently summoned donor meeting.
Sounds like a scam then. If the Magic School Bus can’t provide records of an audit on where the donations are spent, then how do the donors know, of which I have donated close to, if not over a billion ISK to MSB, that the MSB isnt creating fake Rookie accounts to funnel donated ISK into to make ISK from?
The next question is, how long does the average Rookie account stay in the game after receiving items from MSB?
@DrysonBennington You must be the kind of jerk who gives someone something out of your “own good heart” to turn around later and demand a favor from the person you gave to.
Makes me puke!
Mike doesn’t owe you a damn thing. Who do you think you are anyway?
You got some nerve to ask Mike something like that. As if he would know, as if you could know, as if anyone is able to find out!
You are too entitled to even comprehend what the purpose of the MSB is all about.
Too bad you didn’t give over a trillion, I would have paid good money to read that salt-filled rant of yours!
Again, this is a paperwork and tracking request far beyond the scope of what the Bus is and how it works. I place no responsibility on the players to ‘keep in touch’. The ships are given free of conditions or obligations. I do know that a fair number of players tell me that they ‘still have their Bus ship’ and that CCP stats support that social interactions (which is part of what the Bus is) increase the retention of players.
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If that is your concern then think about it why he would bother creating fake accounts when he can just not give anyone anything of value and simply spend the rest on his own stuff.
On that note if you expect him to lie anyway then really what’s the point of an audit where even if he provided some documentation it could all be fabrication.
Unless you meant to gain access to his records through ESI? Not even sure that would work either as am unsure if it provides contract history and if yes how far away back. Even if possible it should be done on a regular basis to stay within the expiry date, whatever that might be.
I also assume he does his personal stuff on the same character as well so 1. the records might be difficult to differentiate between the two activities and 2. might not want to provide ESI access due to not wanting to reveal personal stuff.
So I don’t really see him providing ESI access nor even sure it would work even if he did.
In the end I suppose it all comes down to trust.
On that note I’ve personally witnessed him offering ships in starter and career systems back in the days when I was more active in those areas earlier in my career, completely coincidentally stumbling upon him in local or other cases seeing him pass through the system I was in at the moment, assuming en route to those systems. And also saw him interact with people who accepted the ships.
Could all this be just fraud utilizing alts or only spending a fraction on the ships while keeping the rest? Yes, it is technically possible.
Not sure if CCP actually looked into his activities before (I think he was featured in official CCP showcases such as the community beat or whatever it’s called or alike in the past, though not sure if I remember correctly), especially considering he serves as CSM right now (and not sure but maybe also did in the past) so I guess it would be reasonable if CCP took a look at him and his activities beforehand (at least based on the fact not everyone is allowed to run for CSM if I remember correctly) so there is at least a chance CCP might have discovered his fraud by now and would not give free exposure to him if it was a lie. Just an assumption though.
I guess based on that it would be easier if you asked CCP to look into this than ask evidence from him personally as even if he provided such it might be of questionable value if you expect him to be a liar anyway.
Edit: Btw as it involves rookies I would assume, despite scamming in EVE is a legit part of the game, CCP would not necessarily accept if someone exploited rookies in doing so. They have specific rookie griefing rules thus based on that maybe would take it much more seriously if someone did something like this than a simple scam, somewhat similar to how scamming and fraud related to the PLEX for good campaign was declared unacceptable and against the EULA if I remember correctly.
I get it this is Eve where anything can be a scam… But every once and a while something good does happen MSB is one of those things. While I did not benefit this year. My time is to crazy to be on when it happened. Shrugs.
Though in the future I intend to donate. Why? Because I always am willing to help someone up. If giving a ship, Isk, or equipment can help a player to reach a goal or get what is needed. Then I am all for it.
Suggestion, throttle down the paranoia. Not everything has to be a scam.
Then why are you operating a faculty of donations that you can’t prove to the donor what the ISK is being spent on.
You must be the kind of jerk who gives someone something out of your “own good heart” to turn around later and demand a favor from the person you gave to.
Makes me puke!
You’re the type of person who doesnt know the difference between a gift and donation.
A gift is giving someone an item that has not been advertised, such as giving a random player ISK in Jita, like I have done before, that wasnt asked for.
A donation is when someone asks for a monetary contribution or otem of value that the person had advertised for.
This is even right, it SOUNDS like a scam.
But first of all it’s your choice if and how much to donate, and you absolutely get no reward or return service for a donation (That’s the definition of a donation).
Those who chose to support the MSB are players who are convinced it’s a good cause, and many of them got help in their first days. I regularly start new toons, and most of them have met Mike in the starting phase, which made me wonder how he can handle the workload. And ever since he once asked for support by providing basic modules on market for newbro-fits, I produce and offer small T1 guns in Hek for example - this is not just helping the MSB, but all players who need cheap starting equipment, which are supposedly new players.
The problem with bureaucracy is the additional workload. So if you ask for administrational numbers and reports, you actually reduce the time and motivation invested into the good cause, so this is kind of counterproductive.
That’s really cute, sweetheart.
I’ve donated way more during the last years to the MSB and will continue to do so. Furthermore, I will compensate Mike gladly with an additional billion to make sure that he don’t need to miss you.
And that as a gift of course.
For the love of - Please someone make him stop
Not sure if anyone possesses such powers. As I recall he is acting like that on the forums since many years and neither the gankers or even the moderators can stop him apparently. 
Dunno, as he can’t really be taken seriously I just laugh at his performance. He is like the silly court jester of the EVE-O forums. 
There must be something someone - anyone can do! This is a disgrace!
Ive lost track of how much ive donated. Several bil
I can remember the last two years but before that… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If a player is convinced of MSB being a worthy cause, then how is not providing records of areas that the donations are used in considered a worthy cause?
The number one scammer are those who act nice and sincere when asking for donations to a cause and then makes excuses to as why the charity can prove or present records to show how the ISK is used.
If CCP didnt show info graphs to the player of how the money brought in was being used, would anyone still play the game?
But then again someone not holding a charity accountable are 99% of the time involved in the get rich scam.
Unfortunately for your “cause”, there are no jails in New Eden.
Also, scamming is allowed in EvE so you can now choose another hill to die on.
Your ignorance has convinced me to donate to the MSB.
@Mike_Azariah How does it work? We just contract stuff to you and you come get it?
LOL, of course. It’s fun, then you play on, but if it’s boring, numbers don’t help.
I don’t care about Mikes ability to prepare charts. But I really care about his ability to help new players, which he has proven many times. So let him do the latter, don’t you think?
BTW you can convince yourself and follow the new player chat for a while - you will meet Mike eventually. It’s hard work over years to build up that kind of fame, quite the contrary to charts and claims. I know him from since I started playing.
@DrysonBennington So which one are you, the one in red, green or blue?
Yawn.
Scammers always out theirself.
I don’t care about Mikes ability to prepare charts. But I really care about his ability to help new players,
So, with that being said, you totally trust MSB to not steal the donations for himself?
You totally believe MSB that fake accounts are not being created to create the appearance of ’ rookie’ pilots that are then given modules and ships and other in-game items to create the appearance of a flow of donations when the fake accounts all belong to MSB?
They say suckers are born every minute.
How easy would it be for MSB to create screenshots showing items traded and who the items were traded to?
Game platforms are often times used for scammer to refine the scam, without getting in trouble, to then use the knowledge gain from the game to commit real world scams.
Only scammers use the excuse of a scam being allowed in a game to justify the scam in the real world.
MSB doesnt havent time to hold the actions of MSB acountable by creating records, but MSB sure does have enough time to log in and ask for ISK.
Where are of MSB’s receipients coming to MSB’s defense?
All I see are players who approve of scamming people.
Who’s little baby is that? Is the baby yours or did you get photos from a source that BELIEVE is reliable but really don’t know if the photo been farmed or not. Why are you posting photos of a baby if the baby isnt yours or you dont know where the photo came from?
Please provide a link to website where you got the photo from. See while its important to hold people accountable?
Jedgah might be involved in an illegal photo mining operation and not even be aware.