[ORMUR] Offering assistance in the "Dawn of Liberation" -campaign

((My condolences. I hope you find comfort in the shared warmth of friends and family at this time)).

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((Sorry for your loss. Be well, insofar as is possible. o7))

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((Thank you all for your kind words.))

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A short review of this campaign from my perspective:

Despite the inability of Republic Justice Department to deliver sufficient amounts of transports, around 20,000 slaves were recovered from “human containment facilities” personally by me, and additionally around 5,000-6,000 in joint operations with other pilots. Approxximately 2,000 of them along with a hundred thousand units of antibitiotics were delivered to Aesir Arcology’s care.
Over the entire campaign approxximately 2,800 freed slaves were euthanized on-site.

My main vessel for the operations was a Sisters of EVE -derived Nestor -class battleship with its myriad systems suited for this kind of work. A number of freed slaves were euthanized for following reasons: Medical professionals on board consulted gave them a high probability that they would perish despite treatment and that treatment would only prolong their suffering. Several freed slaves were also found with various communicable diseases that were treatment-resistant with a high lethality rate and were also euthanized to protect other passengers. Euthanization was carried out by a generous dose of anaesthetics and in the case of highly contagious patients they were also anaesthetized, jettisoned in small cargo containers straight from quarantine bays and their bodies disposed of in high-powered laser fire. Their DNA was stored and is currently being matched against various databases with limited results, in the hopes of notifying relevant governments, next of kin or tribes and clans.

In joint-operations I used the aforementioned Mastodon -class Deep Space Transport, which later was found a bit of an overkill both in terms of defence capability and evacuation capacity, as often we got nowhere near the maximum allocated space. Still, better to be over- than underprepared.

Finally, all of this was a drop in an ocean on the gargantuan scale of slavery that is being perpertrated in this cluster, but that does not mean that the people that were saved over this campaign were meaningless or worthless. I have not seen any official talliess yet, but I wouldn’t consider it impossible that millions of slaves were freed during this campaign alone, and that is something we should celebrate. The alternative could have been zero.

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Euthanized. 2,800 euthanized. That’s 11% of the total number. These slavers aren’t Nauplius, they’re motivated by profit; they want healthy slaves. Were there really that many in an “unsalvageable” condition? Conditions that, even if not fixable, could not be mitigated by pain relief treatments?

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Well, according to the doctors in my employ on these vessels, yes. I am not a doctor and I wasn’t going to dispute their medical assessments. I flew them there and they did the doctoring. I know some capsuleers are so high on omnipotence that they think they know everything, but I don’t. It was not something I personally supervised on each and every patient, because again, I am not a doctor.

I had thought I’ve made it clear that I don’t enjoy killing people if I can avoid it and that I don’t kill people for no reason in a perverted glee - I fully believe that what was done was the right thing, according to medical professionals.

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It’ll be interesting to see how well that holds up this time. It sure as hell has been questioned endlessly the last eight years since the last time, and that was after months of attempted treatment and aid.

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Of course I could just lie and say that no, everything was actually fine and rainbows and unicorns and nobody died, if that makes anyone feel better.

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It’s not that some people died. It’s the intentional euthanization, and the numbers of it. Plus the fact that you said it was ‘on site’ - during an event where it was very common for people to be jettisoning or leaving behind vast numbers of people because they couldn’t fit them in their holds. I’m not saying you were being malicious, or that you are not being true, but surely you can agree that a statement like that raises questions, and if I or someone else had made it in some other incident, you would likely be the one with concerns. (Mizhara was just saying, afterall, that she’s faced similar concerns by others during her own treatments of rescues).

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I would like the second Ms. Kernher’s notion that 2800 is an alarmingly high number given the circumstances but it is hard for me to tell why the number is so high. If I had known about this issue I would have offered you the help of me and the staff of my clinics, however I cannot change the past, and in no circumstances will I hold it against you. You worked hard to save these people and you should be proud - I am definitely sure that your Ancestors are.

So in case of any similar large scale campaigns take place I would offer you my assistance.

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Well, I do agree the number certainly is high and I admit I would most likely be suspicious of anyone else making similar reports. Certainly it is also my own arrogance that I did not record each action on the labour sites.

I will have the medical reports looked over by third parties to confirm whether there were malpractices committed, though I am confident that tens of doctors should be able to cross-examine patients to such a degree that such gross oversights should not happen. I’m willing to send copies to even capsuleers with extensive medical knowledge, since I know many treat baseliners with disdain (even if the baseliner would be more knowledgeable in some issue than them).

As for why none of this concerned me at the time was that rogue slavers are not uniform in function. Some of the facilities were even relatively humane and others had people in abject squalor, and I assumed the most hopeless cases came from such facilities.

But perhaps I was also too trusting of my underlings, though I cannot fathom why they would execute these people (since thats what it was if some of them were treatable.) If that turns out to be the case I will assume responsibility of their unjust deaths.

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I would certainly be interested in the reports, and will offer feedback if you are interested.

I agree that there is a variance between the way the rogue slavers handle their slaves and i wouldn’t be surprised if some of them attempted to damage as many slaves as possible upon seeing our ships on grid.

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Ms. Teinyhr? … I feel like I’m kind of talking to someone who already knows all about this, but, could some of those have basically been from end-stage vitoc withdrawal? … I gather there’s kind of been an R&D war between elements of the Empire and Republic, and it seems likely that some of the people you picked up might have had new-generation vitoxin infections.

That’s where most of the deaths on our end have historically come from when recovering Nauplius’s victims, to the point where by now Gottin’s Lamp medical is essentially a specialized vitoc treatment clinic. I’d expect a lot of the slavers’ methods to be kind of similar, if maybe not quite as actively and purposely malignant, and I did put those I rescued in contact with the clinic.

I don’t think we’ve had such a death toll as it seems you did, but your report makes me a little concerned about how they’re doing. I should go check.

(I’m actually hoping you just ran into a particularly horrible facility at some point.)

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As said, I simply do not know, as this is just not my area of expertise in the slightest. I am in the process of gathering reports for Mizhir and her team (as I doubt she has the time to read all 2,885 of them just by herself), so we’ll see.

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I’ve forwarded to you the relevant data.

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